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EM POC MEGATHREAD 12/15/24

WARNING USERS, THERE IS AN OPERATION BY RIGHT-WING TROLLS TO INFILTRATE HEXBEAR, BECAUSE THEY ARE MAD TRANS PEOPLE ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME , PLEASE PROCEED WITH CAUTION

NO CRACKERS ALLOWED

ok gang I'm thinking of leading a wretched of the earth book club in January and after that we do a trinity of fundamentals thoughts?

star_sparkling_soda [they/them, he/him] - 12mon

Thank you so much for the repost 🙇🙇🙇 this kindness means a lot to me

Edit for clarification: not Mem just a concerned friend!

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

of course, the least i can do for another black audhd enby out there, i know how much harder it is for us. i just hope for the best!

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Blockocheese [any] - 12mon

Can people be more specific about the situations on this site they're vaguing about 😭

I'm always confused when I log back on

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hexbee [she/her] - 12mon

My bad, this is the exchange I was vagueposting about.

I mean I'm very open to being wrong about stuff, but uhhh... I don't get it. Z Poster took some kind of victory lap about how my heuristic fell flat on it's face, but I really wasn't following by that point, so I disengaged. The hexbears all seem big brained enough to get it though judging from the votes, but nobody elae cared to elaborate.

Maybe my comment got seen as "syrian people should be so happy to be liberated by good guys HTS", but that feels like a stretch to me to interpret it that way idk

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Z_Poster365 [none/use name] - 12mon

You and frauddog stumbled into the middle of a vague posting thread about a specific current we had noticed in the news thread of people who were being pro-HTS and celebrating the fall of Assad.

That is the context. So frauddog essentially came in blasting all the white anti-imperialists and scolding them for not listening to comprador Arab shitlibs who don’t understand that the death of Syria is the death of Palestine and the axis of resistance. I have family and friends, all Arabs, who celebrated Assad’s fall because they are incoherent and kind of stupid libs. I don’t think principled communists who spend all day analyzing news with a Marxist analysis should cede even an inch to these people.

I’m the one being de-colonial hardliner here, yet you misinterpreted the context and claim I’m a white supremacist or whatever the fuck because I put compradors on blast.

I never once said “not all white people” I think I was quite clear I don’t give a fuck about defending white people. I was pointing out how colonizers launder their views through token compradors and that we can’t necessarily trust someone just because they aren’t white. Look at the fucking Palestinian Authority and the kingdom of Jordan, look at those craven self-hating cucks and tell me we should respect "subjects of empire" automatically without scrutiny.

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hexbee [she/her] - 12mon

That is the context.

Like I said in the news mega, I interpreted the comment as an offhanded quip akin to "omfg that's so relatable" to an experience that is genuinely very relatable (at least to me). So I think interpreting it as

frauddog essentially came in blasting all the white anti-imperialists and scolding them for not listening to comprador Arab shitlibs who don’t understand that the death of Syria is the death of Palestine and the axis of resistance

is going a bit far. Especially on a website where people are commonly shut down and ridiculed for existing-as-poc. If you wanted to go in on that line of thinking, you could have started a couple of comments up the chain (which was all about this same topic and much more explicitly so), instead of going for the comment that might make the majority white anglo userbase even just consider for a second their own systemic role in the lives of poc. That's my opinion.

But I do see where you're coming from better now, so I appreciate your reply. God knows I can relate to being surrounded by family chuds.

Free Palestine, from the river to the sea and death to america.

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Blockocheese [any] - 12mon

Thank you for the context, comrade cuddle

My comment wasn't solely directed at you, you are definitely not the only person that does that

Edit: oh my god i meant to say youre not the only person kitty-cri-screm

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anarchoilluminati [comrade/them] - 12mon

Fucking same! I thought it was just me. data-laughing

This stuff makes Marx rambling about linen, in comparison, so clear. I'm here reading comments like wtf-am-i-reading

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Lussy [he/him, des/pair] - 12mon

It’s always something along the lines of ‘Man, that obscure racist post someone made is really making me question my sanity’

And the post in question is just mildly insulting white women.

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Blockocheese [any] - 12mon

What i genuinely don't understand is why they aren't saying the user or describing the post without @ing someone

I got youre not allowed to restart struggle sessions but if youre vaguing, youre still mentioning the struggle session

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

yeah but the em poc com serves as a place to vent about such things without being harassed by crackers.

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Frogmanfromlake [none/use name] - 12mon

I wish Americans would realize that people in Central America do not love Trump just because their immigrant chud coworkers do. He’s hated in the northern triangle (Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador) and loved by a minority, many of whom choose to move to the US.

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thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 12mon

Americans love to generalized all people from a nation they know little about to appear knowledgeable infront of their just as ignorant peers

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

they are eagerly wielding the {claim} like a club, that they are in reality unconcerned with its truth-content, because it serves a social purpose.

Westerners want to believe that other places are worse off {and that America is the most shining nation on the hill}

::: spoiler spoiler

Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style; they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on. This is because it fundamentally makes them feel better about who they are and how they live. The psychic and material costs are rationally worth the benefits. {of core-periphery labour and resource exploitation, American hegemony, so on and so forth} :::

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thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 12mon

Unlimited bans to all reactionaries

anti-cracker-aktionqin-shi-huangdi-fireball

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

YES! bounces hammer against palm like a movie henchman

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hyrax [pup/pup's, mirror/your pronouns] - 12mon

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Aww mga bata

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hyrax [pup/pup's, mirror/your pronouns] - 12mon

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Bunch of derpy bubbys

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JOB INTERVIEW AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I CANT DO THIS I CANT PRETEND TO BE NT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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hyrax [pup/pup's, mirror/your pronouns] - 12mon

af-heart

wa wa WA WA!!! 💕

meow-bounce

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

youre my fav new account

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hyrax [pup/pup's, mirror/your pronouns] - 12mon

awa!! :3

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Rojo27 [he/him] - 12mon

You can do itmeow-hug

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

the job is mine if i pass some test!

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Assian_Candor [comrade/them] - 12mon

Has anyone else been triggered by anti discrimination training at work?

I was taking it the other day and like as the example of what not to do they literally just had a dude on their saying racist stereotypes about a fictional character with my name and I was like uhhh

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star_sparkling_soda [they/them, he/him] - 12mon

I— :(( (hugs you so tightly if wanted)

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Jesus, you prolly have a colleague with a grudge against you...

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Assian_Candor [comrade/them] - 12mon

Lol nah it was a professionally prepared training video

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Skeleton_Erisma [they/them, any] - 12mon

Immaculate driving today!

comfy-cool

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hello_hello [comrade/them] - 12mon

WARNING USERS, THERE IS AN OPERATION BY RIGHT-WING TROLLS TO INFILTRATE HEXBEAR, BECAUSE THEY ARE MAD TRANS PEOPLE ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME , PLEASE PROCEED WITH CAUTION

I feel sorry for them, they won't last the week.

I hate AI so much, especially when it's used by fellow em_POC who just want to pass their classes because academic resources are systemically denied to them. None of these people run local models they're just using models created by White techbros who want to see the world burn. I'm fearful for the amount of settler propaganda that Silicon Valley can disseminate just through the guise of being "a friendly AI assistant"

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Rojo27 [he/him] - 12mon

I had talked about this a couple weeks ago on one of the general megathreads, but yeah. It honestly scares me a bit just how much the students I know talk about using it. One of my cousin's kids recently started college and he was telling me about how he got in trouble for using an AI to write a paper and the paper got flagged for plagiarism. Setting aside the plagiarism or even the settler propaganda as you mentioned, what does a student gain from having an AI write a paper for them. And its not like the educational system, especially in the US, fosters much critical thinking skills. In all my time working its always taken me aback just how little people seem to be able to do problem solving. AI is just going to make things so much worse.

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hello_hello [comrade/them] - 12mon

Silicon valley is just a breeding ground for what parts of society they can capture and profit off of. Sure, Imperial Core Jimmy can pay 20 American bucks a month for ULTRA-MEGA CHATGPT INFINITY to give him all his answers but Global South Pedro has to do it "the old way" and he should strive to be able to buy AI services.

Imperial core Jimmy gets to cheat on his exams and also contribute to climate change destruction onto the Global South, Win Win for the US.

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

sorry ive been so busy everyone. i will respond to the dm's uhhhh maybe tomorrow, today is rough for me

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khizuo [ze/zir] - 12mon

meow-hug

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

also my computer is dying and the charger broke so i may be unreachable for like a day before I get a new one

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Like I said to Angel, I hope you find the power, pecan!

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

did it!

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Blep [he/him] - 12mon

Mom is mad at me and punishing me, but at the same time wont tell me why or what im supposed to be doing to make up for it. I dont understand.

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

meow-hug

Thats unfair to you

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Some people... They're just irrational when they attack you without reason

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Blep [he/him] - 12mon

Im not even saying its without reason. I just want to know what the reasons are.

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Well that's the irrational part; she doesn't explain why. She just does it unprovoked

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Rojo27 [he/him] - 12mon

Hopefully she gives you a reason once she cools off.

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Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 12mon

Been practicing making more tortillas de harina under my mom's supervision, honestly what I got wrong was wanting to mix it all together but she's been teaching me the secret is mixing the wet parts in slowly and removing the dough from the unmixed parts. Idk over mixing been my mistake while this bodes well for my chances at finding love my diet is being tested.

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

WARNING USERS, THERE IS AN OPERATION BY RIGHT-WING TROLLS TO INFILTRATE HEXBEAR, BECAUSE THEY ARE MAD TRANS PEOPLE ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME , PLEASE PROCEED WITH CAUTION

oh bliat...

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Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 12mon

I doubt any will get through or last long. Trying to fake theory doesn't really work because you'll have to actually read theory and understand it...turning you into a leftist in the process. Way too much effort for the keyboard warriors. Only absolute ghouls can interact with leftwing economics and use it cynically for personal gain.

Warren Buffet doesn't want to come here even though he could easily infiltrate us. Charlie Kirk would piss and shit himself before he could get past the questionnaire.

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

people are so..........................

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Unserious

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hyrax [pup/pup's, mirror/your pronouns] - 12mon

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Aw look at that little bubby hyraxes go, all snugged up like that... I wanna give a cheek peck to them

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Huh, we hit 100 comments...

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homhom9000 [she/her] - 12mon

Is there any other group of people, besides white people, who put a lot of time and effort in tools that cause mass death? I'm mediocre on history, but were/are there any other group of people that's even as close to as destructive? I guess the Japanese could be one.

Also a genuine question. I want to be correct

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Idk... well, there was Genghis Khan whose ravaging Mongol Empire army may've indirectly killed 37.5-60 million people, judging from the 700 million tons of carbon wiped out of this map.

If we're talkin' recently, you could look at Pakistan's U.S-backed war against the newly-indepedent Bangladesh and the Second Congo War in the DRC... (0.300 - 3 million, in their genocide against Bengalis over one year, and 5.4 million dead in the Congo)

If we want to talk about "what not to do", regarding constructing socialism, we could talk about Khmer Rouge Cambodia's Killing Fields and DERG Ethiopia's famine in 1983 (0.165 to 4 million, depending on talking to Noam Chomsky or a western scholar) and (Up to 1 million, according to western scholar)

Then again, I may be talking from liberal brainworms

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homhom9000 [she/her] - 12mon

Also genuine, if it's U.S. backed is it technically still white focused ? Just cause they found faces to carry out their destruction doesn't remove them from it.

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

And no, I'm not including Mao's Great Famine (16.5-60 million, depending on whether you're talking to Deng Xiaoping or the China Quarterly)

I don't think it was purposeful, to say the least, it was major catastrophic policy failure but just at that

If you want to include things like that, I will include post-independence India as another example "India seems to manage to fill its cupboard with more skeletons every eight years than China put there in its years of shame."

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thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 12mon

Mongols did do biological warfare during their conquests

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Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 12mon

You talking about lobbing dead things into castles during sieges? Not to excuse the Mongols, but everyone was doing that the moment fortified cities and catapults became a thing. I don't know if the Mongols invented it or learned it from someone else. Could also be a case of convergent evolution. Torching crop fields and sowing them with salt was another tactic used everywhere to limit enemies ability to wage war.

I'd be curious to know if this stuff did start with the Mongols. They were known for being really good at fucking up people's shit.

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thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 12mon

lobbing dead things into castles im not sure if the mongols invented it, but they did invented the a unique way to make poison arrows by mixing poop and rotten food in their quivers so that their arrows would be cover by deadly infections was were sure dead to anyone struck by them and in some cases cause a plague

also they poison waterways but thats something people before them had done before

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Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 12mon

Ah I didn't know about the poop quivers. Poison darts have been a thing for a long time. I don't know when the use of poison dart frogs started in South America.

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homhom9000 [she/her] - 12mon

Ooh thanks, I'll look into that

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hyrax [pup/pup's, mirror/your pronouns] - 12mon

💤

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

sleepi

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daofaorao [none/use name] - 12mon

i rarely rarely ever post in this site at all, but i have no one where else to vent this out. but i am quite tired of this weird "christification" of luigi in online left spaces. fanart, edits, upvotes, everything. it really reminds me of how american/western centric online spaces are. people stopped talking about sinwar, literally one of the leaders of hamas fighting at the frontlines, after a week or so. it's incredibly annoying to see the absurd claims of luigi being anything like che, lenin, sinwar, or even any of the black panther leaders

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hexbee [she/her] - 12mon

nope, sorry q_q

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Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 12mon

I'm like mildly apprehensive when my parents hit up old friends for any help with me landing a job, last job I was an emergency hire and dumped after a week while another place I just wasn't qualified for. Tempted on working on my CV first before I reach out because end of the day I really don't know how tight they are with each other/how useful it all is. Got that whole thing where parents think I'm good with computers when they don't know that that means something different in hiring (my ass can't code) since they don't know how to turn on any tech.

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LibsEatPoop [any] - 12mon

I’ll be down for the reading!

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

You are POC/ethnic minority?

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LibsEatPoop [any] - 12mon

…yes?

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Oh... I didn't notice that, since you don't usually come here much... sorry for questioning you

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LibsEatPoop [any] - 12mon

You're good, heart-sickle

I might be one of the few hexbear users who doesn't frequent any megathreads lol. Dunno why. It's just never been my thing.

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hyrax [pup/pup's, mirror/your pronouns] - 12mon

💤

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

sleepi

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

ben shapiro likes cynthia erivo because they both hate black americans

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Rojo27 [he/him] - 12mon

Starting next year of strong with a Wretched of the Earth book club sounds great.

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

if the cia DIDNT make the shade room, someone should be fired and have thier position filled with whoever did holy shit

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

also i keep thinking shannon sharpe is dead and im sad when hes not

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SevenSkalls [he/him] - 12mon

Lol it's just a gossip rag, right? What makes it so CIA?

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star_sparkling_soda [they/them, he/him] - 12mon

I would love to join the reading!!! Ahhh it is so hard to read by myself I think this would help 🫂🫶🏼🫶🏼

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HighOnCopium [she/her] - 12mon

a wretched of the earth book club in January and after that we do a trinity of fundamentals thoughts

Yes please

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

You are POC/ethnic minority?

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Dessa [she/her] - 12mon

I'm down with a Wretched of the Earth group because chapter 1 is neverending and it feels like disconnected rambling. It feels almost stream of consciousness or something and I need something to latch onto. Maybe a group can help center me

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sweet_pecan [love/loves, they/them] - 12mon

That is extremely true, the theory is great but our mans needed an editor. i think the group will help!

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

it feels like disconnected rambling. It feels almost stream of consciousness

I mean, that's not far from what he did, Fanon mostly spoke out and have his wife transcribe what he was saying to write down his books, so it could be due to that...

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Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them] - 12mon

Funny, this megathread's not dead yet

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