Are you a cisgender heterosexual? Informal Survey Result: Supermajority of Hexbear users say NO and UNSURE.
Hey folks, the results are in and the vast majority of active Hexbear users say they are not cishet!
This survey had the same limitations of our previous transgender survey. This means we do not have the tech to make this survey more accurate through other means (more questions, more options, negative/positive answering, anonymous answering, etc). However, we do have a good sampling of the active userbase (about 1/3rd of daily active users answered) and combined with the transgender poll, we can conclude that Hexbear is an overwhelmingly queer instance that is proud of stating its queerness publicly.
You can see the graphs of the previous transgender survey here:
You can find the raw (public) data of the survey here. Feel free to audit my numbers and make sure I didn't hallucinate anything!
The total tally was
Yes = 114
No = 195
Unsure = 30
Total = 339
A number of people did not follow instructions properly, and I put them into the category that made sense based on the information they provided.
A number of people used the dean-malice emote which was not in the set of emojis I provided for responses. Most were merged into yes, unless they stated they were queer otherwise.
This survey is a little less complex than the last one, I kept it short and sweet and did not tally the pronouns.
Both surveys were done over three days and were pinned on the front page.
I'm a straight guy but I like sucking off other guys in a hetero way. Still straight
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GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 2.1yr
I am straight
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Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them] - 2.1yr
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GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's] - 2.1yr
the more adamantly you claim it the more true it is! keep it up
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PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them] - 2.1yr
Sucking off the homies is the straightest thing you can do
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Łumało [he/him] - 2.1yr
YIPPEE
I'M THE MINORITY NOW :sicko-yes:
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Łumało [he/him] - 2.1yr
nah but tbf
just like with the last survey, i'm really fucking happy for how things are split up
being in the minority as a cis dude is very reassuring about what kind of space hexbear is
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mayo_cider [he/him] - 2.1yr
just a quick minority report
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Łumało [he/him] - 2.1yr
:basil-anxious-smile: no please don't, i promise i'm one of the good ones
:basil-anxious: im a good cissy seriously please don't
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mayo_cider [he/him] - 2.1yr
only if you get to the front seat of the cissy mobile
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ColonelKataffy [he/him] - 2.1yr
this is really cool and it's great to be part of a community that embraces our trans comrades, or should i say a community of trans comrades that embraces its cis minority.
am i reading the results correctly that very few cis women responded to the survey/are present on hexbear? "No votes by pronoun" has a dark grey sliver which i assume would be "she/her", implying cis women?
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
There aren't many cis women, yeah. I go over their rough numbers here. Basically, per week we should be getting around 40-50 cis women, based on the trans survey's numbers. Hopefully, lemmy will let us do more complex polling and surveys in the future.
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AutomatedPossum [she/her] - 2.1yr
a third of the users are cishet
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NephewAlphaBravo [he/him] - 2.1yr
please xi/xir
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Łumało [he/him] - 2.1yr
sorry :sadness:
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Babs [she/her] - 2.1yr
It's okay just don't do it again.
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Łumało [he/him] - 2.1yr
:hero-pain: I'm so fucking sorry...
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Rojo27 [he/him] - 2.1yr
Ready to accept my punishment
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Finger [he/him] - 2.1yr
no more half measures walter
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FourteenEyes [he/him] - 2.1yr
They're puttin pigpoopballs in the posts to make the friggin' hexbears trans
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
puttin
:putin-wink:
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FourteenEyes [he/him] - 2.1yr
Havana Syndrome is just what happens when you try to use the Putinite Sissy Hypno Ray on men who have already experienced twink death
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GaveUp [she/her] - 2.1yr
It's so interesting seeing how there's almost no cis women in online left spaces but irl, they seem to be the plurality (at least amongst the younger crowd (aka same age demographic as online) for sure they are)
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cosecantphi [he/him, they/them] - 2.1yr
Let me know if I'm off the mark about any of this, but my guess is that we'd see a significant bump in cis women if the polling were anonymous. Things are getting lot better now as the internet becomes increasingly diverse, but early on it was dominated by white, cishet techbros who suddenly found themselves with their own anonymous soapbox with endless reach.
Cis women learn from an early age that outing their gender on the internet results in creeps crawling out of the woodwork to harass them, so they don't do it. Transwomen face the same misogyny, but are far more comfortable on the internet owing to their experience of using it before hatching.
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GaveUp [she/her] - 2.1yr
Transwomen face the same misogyny, but are far more comfortable on the internet owing to their experience of using it before hatching.
Male socialization mentioned!!! Let's goooooo
AMAB AMAB AFAB ARAB ACAB
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cosecantphi [he/him, they/them] - 2.1yr
Sorry, I'm really stoned and was just spitballing there. Is what I said reactionary or adjacent to the way reactionaries use the term male socialization?
Ohhhhh ok yeah I'm a dumbass. That subreddit kept coming up with just the acronym in the title but I did not put 2 and 2 together.
Classic stormfromt bullshit then
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
That's also true, mentioned it in the original survey.
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niph - 2.1yr
I put unsure, which is true, though I’m AFAB and cis presenting. A lot of online spaces (whether leftist or otherwise) are just hard to interact with when you’ve grown up conditioned to femininity. At least on Twitter, TikTok etc there is some amount of accountability with people’s accounts but in more anonymised spaces the language and discourse is often just very… dismissive, cynical, violent, etc. and it’s not that it’s not warranted, but cis women are often raised to be repelled by that kind of tone so it can be a shock/difficult to fit in even if the space isn’t overtly or implicitly misogynist.
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AernaLingus [any] - 2.1yr
That makes a lot of sense to me. Just yesterday, I was on 4chan (not to hang out, but unfortunately it's still the best place to find certain things, so I will do targeted searches to get what I need and get out) and I happened to go into one of the few enclaves that's dominated by women. I swear it was it was like I was on an entirely different site: shocking, but in a good way. People are being nice to each other! No one's throwing slurs around or being casually misogynist! It's still 4chan, so there is some weirdness, but it's a lot closer to Tumblr tone-wise than I would have ever imagined possible. I suppose that's one of the advantages of imageboards--if you want to, you can pretty much just live inside of a few ongoing threads and completely ignore the rest of the site, which isn't really facilitated by a reddit-style platform.
Even if the politics of Hexbear could hardly be more different from 4chan and it doesn't have the same culture of being needlessly rude to each other, I can definitely see how the jocularity and calls for violence (ironic or otherwise) could be off-putting. Tbh, it's not a dialect I'm particularly fluent in either, but I'm more or less inured to it and (unlike 4chan) I don't have to communicate that way myself to be accepted here.
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CoolerOpposide [she/her] - 2.1yr
Because irl women face gender discrimination and greater exploitation, which is a very radicalizing experience that most would like to do away with after facing it from the time you first gain consciousness until you pass away.
Not to attempt to invalidate anybody’s life experience or belittle anybody for their organizing efforts, but men, on the basis of their privileged position in society, have a lot less to directly gain by spending real time and real effort organizing and thus have less actual motivation on average to do something about it.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
Idk, trans women deal with a lot of awful things too and thats why so many are shut ins.
But I bet cis women use social media to the same degree, they just prefer a different format
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CoolerOpposide [she/her] - 2.1yr
While many trans women are as you’ve described for the reason you described, I accounted for trans women in my comment already and would have to disagree with what you are saying if you are trying to contradict my initial comment. In my personal organizing experience, trans folks are by far the most disproportionately represented demographic, and I would have to say it’s probably for the same reason I listed above.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
Can you go further into what you mean?
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CoolerOpposide [she/her] - 2.1yr
I just mean that in terms of comrades I’ve organized with over the years, a much higher percent have been trans than trans people represent in the population as a whole; the reason for this being that the experience of life as a trans person is inherently radicalizing
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
Ooh OK, I was having a hard time reading that for some reason. No coffee today
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CoolerOpposide [she/her] - 2.1yr
Sometimes I really do forget caffeine is a drug until I haven’t had it and get mad and shaky
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sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.1yr
Happy pride everyone!
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take_five_seconds - 2.1yr
wild. super cool. blessed to be a part of this space as a cissie
31
keepcarrot [she/her] - 2.1yr
A supermajority means Biden can't veto this
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D61 [any] - 2.1yr
Announcer voice: Oh NO!! IS THAT THE SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN WITH A CHAIR!?!?!
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Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him] - 2.1yr
I'm happy the mods have been able to make this more of a safe place for queer people from all over to discuss and share our experiences. It's been a part of my journey in connecting more with other queer people.
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invalidusernamelol [he/him] - 2.1yr
I feel like a poser being a straight cis guy and also a mod
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Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him] - 2.1yr
No, don't doubt yourself.
Everybody contributed their share to build this inclusive community. That's something we should all feel proud of.
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WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them] - 2.1yr
But the fediverse told me that we're using gay people as a cudgel to do heckin fascism. Do we just have a really big cudgel? Are we Guts from frickin Berserk?
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
Actually by the numbers we are using the cishets as a cudgel
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mayo_cider [he/him] - 2.1yr
that's gay
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SnowySkyes - 2.1yr
These numbers are lacking. I think it's time I pulled out my estrogen gun.
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Frank [he/him, he/him] - 2.1yr
We are approaching the singaylarity!
22
Rojo27 [he/him] - 2.1yr
You could almost say we're transitioning into a new queera.
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GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's] - 2.1yr
trans forum "concealed" as a communist forum, many people are saying this
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PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them] - 2.1yr
PURGE PURGE PURGE
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Finger [he/him] - 2.1yr
no more half measures walter
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iridaniotter [she/her] - 2.1yr
Quite a significant difference between the two surveys though. And just a couple months between them so I doubt it's due to transition.
Edit: my bad!
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Edie [it/its] - 2.1yr
This one was about cishet, while the other one was just about trans. Any cis but not het people are counted as No here, and No on the other one.
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iridaniotter [she/her] - 2.1yr
Oh yes of course. That checks out then.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
Yeah. I did the poll in the negative because it'd be more inclusive with less options so there is less confusion / manual fixing of the survey.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
It is a broader criteria after all. What's interesting is that it seems that there are quite a lot more trans queers than cis queers here.
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BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 2.1yr
I have upgraded from a cis they/them to a maybe, I look forward to the next survey :rat-salute:
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da_gay_pussy_eatah [she/her] - 2.1yr
what is a "cis they/them"
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BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 2.1yr
I was a cis guy, who preferred being referred to with they/them. Is that cope? Maybe. But it was my thought process for a while (and still kinda is)
Now I've been thinking and uhhh I don't know. Realistically I have a lot of trans feelings. We'll see.
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da_gay_pussy_eatah [she/her] - 2.1yr
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machiabelly [she/her] - 2.1yr
Proud of you!
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Edie [it/its] - 2.1yr
P.S. Thanks @ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml for helping make this a bit quicker with your code here.
Sure! If you are going to do more, maybe I should work a bit more on it. I have a few ideas.
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NewLeaf - 2.1yr
my one could have tipped the scales!!!!!!
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WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them] - 2.1yr
Hexbear is treating me like a frickin minority now (Upbearing my posts, answering my questions, playing along with my bits, and being cool)!
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WIIHAPPYFEW [any, any] - 2.1yr
WE KEEP WINNING
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Awoo [she/her] - 2.1yr
Was this stickied at any point? Somehow I missed this post but not the survey itself.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.1yr
Yeah just not very long
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Awoo [she/her] - 2.1yr
Moreeeeeeeeeeeeee
People will have missed it that want to see it.
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Acute_Engles [he/him, any] - 2.1yr
Nice
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GalaxyBrain [they/them] - 2.1yr
I didn't vote because electoralism is bad or something. I just kinda spaced on it.
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Barx [none/use name] - 2.1yr
Hell yeah love my queer comrades of all kinds.
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anarchoilluminati [comrade/them] - 2.1yr
Thanks, Obama!
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HexaSnoot [none/use name] - 2.1yr
What makes some people go by it/it's?
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Edie [it/its, she/her] - 2.1yr
I am a cat.
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Sickos [they/them, it/its] - 2.1yr
Abolishing gender is a start, but why not abolish your humanity for the cold superiority of steel? Dissociation between my internetself and meatself. Funsies.
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EpicKebabEater [he/him, it/its] - 2.1yr
I am a binary trans guy but I dislike gendered pronouns as a concept. I also dislike "they" as a gender-neutral pronoun(no offense to people who use it, I don't like using it) so I use the other gender neutral pronoun. It also just goes kinda hard.
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HexaSnoot [none/use name] - 2.1yr
Putting things in gendered boxes wears on me to the extent I want to go by it/they/them. I'll go by "she/her" sometimes but it's to embrace the underdog role I have in this patriarchy.
How do you handle it someone calls you "it" in a mean way?
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EpicKebabEater [he/him, it/its] - 2.1yr
I have been insulted and dehumanized for being trans but never specifically by getting called it, which might be why I am more willing to use it.
If I was called it as an insult I don't think I would understand unless they pointed out their intent, in which case I'd probably try to leave.
kristina in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns
Are you a cisgender heterosexual? Informal Survey Result: Supermajority of Hexbear users say NO and UNSURE.
Hey folks, the results are in and the vast majority of active Hexbear users say they are not cishet!
This survey had the same limitations of our previous transgender survey. This means we do not have the tech to make this survey more accurate through other means (more questions, more options, negative/positive answering, anonymous answering, etc). However, we do have a good sampling of the active userbase (about 1/3rd of daily active users answered) and combined with the transgender poll, we can conclude that Hexbear is an overwhelmingly queer instance that is proud of stating its queerness publicly.
You can see the graphs of the previous transgender survey here:
You can find the raw (public) data of the survey here. Feel free to audit my numbers and make sure I didn't hallucinate anything!
The total tally was
A number of people did not follow instructions properly, and I put them into the category that made sense based on the information they provided.
A number of people used the dean-malice emote which was not in the set of emojis I provided for responses. Most were merged into yes, unless they stated they were queer otherwise.
This survey is a little less complex than the last one, I kept it short and sweet and did not tally the pronouns.
Both surveys were done over three days and were pinned on the front page.
P.S. Thanks @ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml for helping make this a bit quicker with your code here.
I hope you all have as much fun with this information as I did and I hope you all have a great Pride Month
Oh great so I'm going to be executed for being straight now?
Joke's on you I already have thigh highs... Somewhere. And a garter belt that hasn't fit in probably a decade. : p
Even the cis on hexbear aren't cis.
Cishet with Queer Characteristics
Mark you as...Questioning.
No, you'll just turn gay through osmosis.
The queer contagion
I've said it before, but if it wasn't for hexbear I wouldn't have been confident enough to understand I am Nb. So ty y'all.
Wtf where is she bear
hexbear, shebear, theybear, webear
I wumbo, you wumbo, he/she/it wumbos
Lmao autocorrect always does this.
she eepy rn
Same
I'm a straight guy but I like sucking off other guys in a hetero way. Still straight
I am straight
the more adamantly you claim it the more true it is! keep it up
Sucking off the homies is the straightest thing you can do
YIPPEE
I'M THE MINORITY NOW :sicko-yes:
nah but tbf
just like with the last survey, i'm really fucking happy for how things are split up
being in the minority as a cis dude is very reassuring about what kind of space hexbear is
just a quick minority report
:basil-anxious-smile: no please don't, i promise i'm one of the good ones
:basil-anxious: im a good cissy seriously please don't
only if you get to the front seat of the cissy mobile
this is really cool and it's great to be part of a community that embraces our trans comrades, or should i say a community of trans comrades that embraces its cis minority.
am i reading the results correctly that very few cis women responded to the survey/are present on hexbear? "No votes by pronoun" has a dark grey sliver which i assume would be "she/her", implying cis women?
There aren't many cis women, yeah. I go over their rough numbers here. Basically, per week we should be getting around 40-50 cis women, based on the trans survey's numbers. Hopefully, lemmy will let us do more complex polling and surveys in the future.
a third of the users are cishet
sorry :sadness:
It's okay just don't do it again.
:hero-pain: I'm so fucking sorry...
Ready to accept my punishment
no more half measures walter
They're puttin pigpoopballs in the posts to make the friggin' hexbears trans
:putin-wink:
Havana Syndrome is just what happens when you try to use the Putinite Sissy Hypno Ray on men who have already experienced twink death
It's so interesting seeing how there's almost no cis women in online left spaces but irl, they seem to be the plurality (at least amongst the younger crowd (aka same age demographic as online) for sure they are)
Let me know if I'm off the mark about any of this, but my guess is that we'd see a significant bump in cis women if the polling were anonymous. Things are getting lot better now as the internet becomes increasingly diverse, but early on it was dominated by white, cishet techbros who suddenly found themselves with their own anonymous soapbox with endless reach.
Cis women learn from an early age that outing their gender on the internet results in creeps crawling out of the woodwork to harass them, so they don't do it. Transwomen face the same misogyny, but are far more comfortable on the internet owing to their experience of using it before hatching.
Male socialization mentioned!!! Let's goooooo
AMAB AMAB AFAB ARAB ACAB
Sorry, I'm really stoned and was just spitballing there. Is what I said reactionary or adjacent to the way reactionaries use the term male socialization?
No not really, sorry I just have tgcj syndrome
What is tgcj syndrome ? I googled but am getting uninterpretable reddit bigotry
Transgendercirclejerk. I'm assuming the subreddit.
Ohhhhh ok yeah I'm a dumbass. That subreddit kept coming up with just the acronym in the title but I did not put 2 and 2 together.
Classic stormfromt bullshit then
That's also true, mentioned it in the original survey.
I put unsure, which is true, though I’m AFAB and cis presenting. A lot of online spaces (whether leftist or otherwise) are just hard to interact with when you’ve grown up conditioned to femininity. At least on Twitter, TikTok etc there is some amount of accountability with people’s accounts but in more anonymised spaces the language and discourse is often just very… dismissive, cynical, violent, etc. and it’s not that it’s not warranted, but cis women are often raised to be repelled by that kind of tone so it can be a shock/difficult to fit in even if the space isn’t overtly or implicitly misogynist.
That makes a lot of sense to me. Just yesterday, I was on 4chan (not to hang out, but unfortunately it's still the best place to find certain things, so I will do targeted searches to get what I need and get out) and I happened to go into one of the few enclaves that's dominated by women. I swear it was it was like I was on an entirely different site: shocking, but in a good way. People are being nice to each other! No one's throwing slurs around or being casually misogynist! It's still 4chan, so there is some weirdness, but it's a lot closer to Tumblr tone-wise than I would have ever imagined possible. I suppose that's one of the advantages of imageboards--if you want to, you can pretty much just live inside of a few ongoing threads and completely ignore the rest of the site, which isn't really facilitated by a reddit-style platform.
Even if the politics of Hexbear could hardly be more different from 4chan and it doesn't have the same culture of being needlessly rude to each other, I can definitely see how the jocularity and calls for violence (ironic or otherwise) could be off-putting. Tbh, it's not a dialect I'm particularly fluent in either, but I'm more or less inured to it and (unlike 4chan) I don't have to communicate that way myself to be accepted here.
Because irl women face gender discrimination and greater exploitation, which is a very radicalizing experience that most would like to do away with after facing it from the time you first gain consciousness until you pass away.
Not to attempt to invalidate anybody’s life experience or belittle anybody for their organizing efforts, but men, on the basis of their privileged position in society, have a lot less to directly gain by spending real time and real effort organizing and thus have less actual motivation on average to do something about it.
Idk, trans women deal with a lot of awful things too and thats why so many are shut ins.
But I bet cis women use social media to the same degree, they just prefer a different format
While many trans women are as you’ve described for the reason you described, I accounted for trans women in my comment already and would have to disagree with what you are saying if you are trying to contradict my initial comment. In my personal organizing experience, trans folks are by far the most disproportionately represented demographic, and I would have to say it’s probably for the same reason I listed above.
Can you go further into what you mean?
I just mean that in terms of comrades I’ve organized with over the years, a much higher percent have been trans than trans people represent in the population as a whole; the reason for this being that the experience of life as a trans person is inherently radicalizing
Ooh OK, I was having a hard time reading that for some reason. No coffee today
Sometimes I really do forget caffeine is a drug until I haven’t had it and get mad and shaky
Happy pride everyone!
wild. super cool. blessed to be a part of this space as a cissie
A supermajority means Biden can't veto this
Announcer voice: Oh NO!! IS THAT THE SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN WITH A CHAIR!?!?!
I'm happy the mods have been able to make this more of a safe place for queer people from all over to discuss and share our experiences. It's been a part of my journey in connecting more with other queer people.
I feel like a poser being a straight cis guy and also a mod
No, don't doubt yourself. Everybody contributed their share to build this inclusive community. That's something we should all feel proud of.
But the fediverse told me that we're using gay people as a cudgel to do heckin fascism. Do we just have a really big cudgel? Are we Guts from frickin Berserk?
Actually by the numbers we are using the cishets as a cudgel
that's gay
These numbers are lacking. I think it's time I pulled out my estrogen gun.
We are approaching the singaylarity!
You could almost say we're transitioning into a new queera.
trans forum "concealed" as a communist forum, many people are saying this
PURGE PURGE PURGE
no more half measures walter
Quite a significant difference between the two surveys though. And just a couple months between them so I doubt it's due to transition.
Edit: my bad!
This one was about cishet, while the other one was just about trans. Any cis but not het people are counted as No here, and No on the other one.
Oh yes of course. That checks out then.
Yeah. I did the poll in the negative because it'd be more inclusive with less options so there is less confusion / manual fixing of the survey.
It is a broader criteria after all. What's interesting is that it seems that there are quite a lot more trans queers than cis queers here.
I have upgraded from a cis they/them to a maybe, I look forward to the next survey :rat-salute:
what is a "cis they/them"
I was a cis guy, who preferred being referred to with they/them. Is that cope? Maybe. But it was my thought process for a while (and still kinda is)
Now I've been thinking and uhhh I don't know. Realistically I have a lot of trans feelings. We'll see.
Sure! If you are going to do more, maybe I should work a bit more on it. I have a few ideas.
Hexbear is treating me like a frickin minority now (Upbearing my posts, answering my questions, playing along with my bits, and being cool)!
WE KEEP WINNING
Was this stickied at any point? Somehow I missed this post but not the survey itself.
Yeah just not very long
Moreeeeeeeeeeeeee
People will have missed it that want to see it.
Nice
I didn't vote because electoralism is bad or something. I just kinda spaced on it.
Hell yeah love my queer comrades of all kinds.
Thanks, Obama!
What makes some people go by it/it's?
I am a cat.
Abolishing gender is a start, but why not abolish your humanity for the cold superiority of steel? Dissociation between my internetself and meatself. Funsies.
I am a binary trans guy but I dislike gendered pronouns as a concept. I also dislike "they" as a gender-neutral pronoun(no offense to people who use it, I don't like using it) so I use the other gender neutral pronoun. It also just goes kinda hard.
Putting things in gendered boxes wears on me to the extent I want to go by it/they/them. I'll go by "she/her" sometimes but it's to embrace the underdog role I have in this patriarchy.
How do you handle it someone calls you "it" in a mean way?
I have been insulted and dehumanized for being trans but never specifically by getting called it, which might be why I am more willing to use it.
If I was called it as an insult I don't think I would understand unless they pointed out their intent, in which case I'd probably try to leave.
Some people they'll never accept them, but some will and they know how to find the good ones