Those lyrics hurt my very soul. Got me all teared up.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
it's really good! it plays as we see someone who was denied the ability to pursue the body they want for years by their parents showing off their new cool robot body to their mom in their last moments before the cops kill them
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SnowySkyes - 2.2yr
Ahhhh fuck. I need to watch it again. It’s been a good 10 or 15 years now.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
i just finished season 1 a little bit ago, it's a fantastic show if you like sad cops (i like stories about sad cops)
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.2yr
I am morally & ethically required to support all trans GitS posting
Also though
I'm such a freak
A mutant man, a woman underneath
Ow that's a kinda fuckin genderfluid ass vibe, if I had a nickel for every time I saw this sentiment in a media I'd have fifteen cents.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
gits is so trans it's wild watching it as an adult with thoughts about gender. this song makes me think it might have been intentional? impossible to say
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.2yr
We will assume that it is and claim GitS as a Trans Thing™!!!
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
iirc the guy behind the manga is a weird rightwing shithead but who gives a shit, the major is so trans it's incredible
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.2yr
Now we absolutely have to claim it as a Trans Thing, yes!! It's hard to argue against tbh.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
the major is trans as hell, i love her. the transbian rep we deserve (if you ignore how much of a cop she is)
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.2yr
...can I critically support a cool transbian cop? acab tho.........
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
the central bit of ghost in the shell is that the major (and to a lesser extent all the non-togusa members of section nine) has made the bargain that in exchange for having an idealized body that body is the property of the government and she cannot escape being a tool of the state, which is a really interesting tension. though like, obviously still a cop even if she's trapped as such on pain of the government confiscating her entire body
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grym - 2.2yr
Hey i thought about this comment again and went online to check, couldn't find much on the guy. I've started reading the manga recently, and his politics are certainly strange.
Do you have any good sources or analysis on the political angle of the manga and author, his more personal beliefs?
GitS has always been a strange beast to me. The manga, the movies, the animes, all have different vibes and interpretations of the setting, and the political leanings vary quite a lot.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
sorry i don't have more lmao, this is half remembered hearsay i probably read on a discord server 5 years ago. it probably mostly came from the manga and also other manga he's done. appleseed and dominion tank police and such
and yeah the vibes shift dramatically from entry to entry, everyone who comes to it approaches it pretty differently
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AutomatedPossum [she/her] - 2.2yr
I recently talked to a friend of mine how we both went through a weeb phase when we were eggs and which characters gave us gender envy that we couldn't process at all back then, and somehow i forgot to include the Major in that list. I might need to rewatch GitS soon.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
both went through a weeb phase when we were eggs and which characters gave us gender envy that we couldn't process at all back then
MANY such cases. who was your biggest one? aside from ranma i was SUPER into seras from hellsing. and also sailor mars
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AutomatedPossum [she/her] - 2.2yr
I was a pretentious hipster on acid back then, so clearly Lain Iwakura. That scene where she talks to Alice in the finale and it's like talking a gal pal you have super strong lesbian tension with out of a bad trip? That did things to me i could only understand more than a decade later.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
good pick! i somehow never watched lain until after the egg hatched, so i didn't have that experience but i DID go she's just like me fr when i finally got around to it
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Pluto [he/him, he/him] - 2.2yr
Just like The Matrix.
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Rx_Hawk [he/him] - 2.2yr
I watched this for the first time like 10 years ago and I think almost all of this show's real messages were lost on me. I'll have to give it another watch, maybe nominate it for some hextube nights.
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grym - 2.2yr
Was just listening to that a few weeks ago and commented about it to friends on discord.
Huge fan of GitS since i was a teenager, and only looked at the lyrics of this track recently. Wild.
That song makes me a sobbing mess every time, i can't help it.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.2yr
right??? i think this might be yoko kanno's best ost, it's outstanding
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un_mask_me [any] - 2.2yr
I have the first season's soundtrack on CD, hard not to like Yoko Kanno's work, absolute legend
Cromalin in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns
least transgender ghost in the shell moment
link
Those lyrics hurt my very soul. Got me all teared up.
it's really good! it plays as we see someone who was denied the ability to pursue the body they want for years by their parents showing off their new cool robot body to their mom in their last moments before the cops kill them
Ahhhh fuck. I need to watch it again. It’s been a good 10 or 15 years now.
i just finished season 1 a little bit ago, it's a fantastic show if you like sad cops (i like stories about sad cops)
I am morally & ethically required to support all trans GitS posting
Also though
Ow
that's a kinda fuckin genderfluid ass vibe, if I had a nickel for every time I saw this sentiment in a media I'd have fifteen cents.
gits is so trans it's wild watching it as an adult with thoughts about gender. this song makes me think it might have been intentional? impossible to say
We will assume that it is and claim GitS as a Trans Thing™!!!
iirc the guy behind the manga is a weird rightwing shithead but who gives a shit, the major is so trans it's incredible
Now we absolutely have to claim it as a Trans Thing, yes!! It's hard to argue against tbh.
the major is trans as hell, i love her. the transbian rep we deserve (if you ignore how much of a cop she is)
...can I critically support a cool transbian cop? acab tho.........
the central bit of ghost in the shell is that the major (and to a lesser extent all the non-togusa members of section nine) has made the bargain that in exchange for having an idealized body that body is the property of the government and she cannot escape being a tool of the state, which is a really interesting tension. though like, obviously still a cop even if she's trapped as such on pain of the government confiscating her entire body
Hey i thought about this comment again and went online to check, couldn't find much on the guy. I've started reading the manga recently, and his politics are certainly strange. Do you have any good sources or analysis on the political angle of the manga and author, his more personal beliefs?
GitS has always been a strange beast to me. The manga, the movies, the animes, all have different vibes and interpretations of the setting, and the political leanings vary quite a lot.
sorry i don't have more lmao, this is half remembered hearsay i probably read on a discord server 5 years ago. it probably mostly came from the manga and also other manga he's done. appleseed and dominion tank police and such
and yeah the vibes shift dramatically from entry to entry, everyone who comes to it approaches it pretty differently
I recently talked to a friend of mine how we both went through a weeb phase when we were eggs and which characters gave us gender envy that we couldn't process at all back then, and somehow i forgot to include the Major in that list. I might need to rewatch GitS soon.
MANY such cases. who was your biggest one? aside from ranma i was SUPER into seras from hellsing. and also sailor mars
I was a pretentious hipster on acid back then, so clearly Lain Iwakura. That scene where she talks to Alice in the finale and it's like talking a gal pal you have super strong lesbian tension with out of a bad trip? That did things to me i could only understand more than a decade later.
good pick! i somehow never watched lain until after the egg hatched, so i didn't have that experience but i DID go she's just like me fr when i finally got around to it
Just like The Matrix.
I watched this for the first time like 10 years ago and I think almost all of this show's real messages were lost on me. I'll have to give it another watch, maybe nominate it for some hextube nights.
Was just listening to that a few weeks ago and commented about it to friends on discord.
Huge fan of GitS since i was a teenager, and only looked at the lyrics of this track recently. Wild.
That song makes me a sobbing mess every time, i can't help it.
right??? i think this might be yoko kanno's best ost, it's outstanding
I have the first season's soundtrack on CD, hard not to like Yoko Kanno's work, absolute legend