Weekly Trans Megathread for the Week of 4/1 to 4/7
I hope everyone had a great week! Hang out. Chat. Talk about what's going on. Have fun :3
RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her] - 2.3yr
Coworkers have starting teasing me about my hair because I've been growing it out. Say it looks like Gene Wilder's (it does). But, like, Gene Wilder is awesome?
Another coworker says I look like Timothy shalomet (I don't), and he sure is pretty. Do they just think I have a magical Wonka aura?
Anyway, I take this as evidence that my hair is reaching outside the bounds of Acceptable Male Gender Expression, so the enforcement is now taking place. That's good I guess.
One of them asked me if I ever want to be a woman, and I said sometimes.
I mean, some of these people have seen me off work with makeup, earrings, hair styled, and femme clothes, and they still don't get it lol. The cis really do be oblivious sometimes.
They just think I'm "fashionable" lmao
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Damn someone just asked you that? Cis ppl be wildin.
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RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her] - 2.3yr
Yeah she's weird >.>
Overall, she's sweet, though. Just kind of oblivious about queer stuff. Normal where I'm living
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Mhm it's not a bad question on its own, just kinda wild, where I am cis ppl usually walk on eggshells and never acknowledge queer stuff lol
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bl_r @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 2.3yr
As a male presenting person it’s infuriating constantly hearing people tell me to cut my hair now that it’s beyond the acceptable male hair length. I think it’s gonna get so much worse when I get earrings :/
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RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her] - 2.3yr
Who knows, once you get the earrings, things might click for them.
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
This morning, I got the biggest surprise phone call of my life so far. To my sheer shock and surprise, they moved my bottom surgery from next week to this week. I did not expect them to move it up this close to my surgical date. I was not prepped for this, but I'm all for it. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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JohannaChittarra - 2.3yr
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Nice finally some good news!
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
oh my god
i was on a discord call with like 2 queer friends last night. Girl name, she/her pronouns. I had earlier used that one nicer shampoo/conditioner that I've been leaving around my shower for god knows how long so this time my hair looked really good? Mid length, "masculine" cut but something about the way my headphones acted as a headband almost made my hair look really nice? My friend even noticed and commented on how she loved my hair
I spent like half an hour just kind of zoning out of the call looking at myself on the screen and for the first time I actually... felt nice. Like, I actually liked what I saw, I was visibly happy with myself. I ended up taking 5 selfies on that call and for the first time in my life I did that because I actually wanted to
still cis tho
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Preening on the screen view of a video call is such a good vibe.
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
Video calls can smooth things out and really make us look fem and pretty right? Blows my mind sometimes haha I should take more pictures
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
yeah, I actually ended up taking more photos of my computer screen than myself because that's where i looked nicer. big shoutout to discord for putting up the femme filter for me apparently
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lapis [fae/faer, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
this is so real! I often see myself in work slack calls (where I'm boymoding), and am confused as to why that has to be where I look the most fem.
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
I am still boymoding too and honestly I'm just here to gaslight people who think they are noticing changes lmao. I see people give me the extra long stare at work when talking to me and the little question mark pop up over their head 😂
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EllenKelly [comrade/them] - 2.3yr
went away for the state enforced Christian holiday, interacted with a heap of people and felt constantly treated like a guy, I kept feeling like everyone was about to call me the name I stopped using five years ago, I started doing it in my head, and having dreams about it
good reminder to not go anywhere I guess. sorry for sadposting, i'm fine
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good_girl [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
Wanted to see if I could find some kind of support group for transfems in my city so I could maybe build some kind of social network for myself.
Despite my city frequently being in the top 10 most queer cities of my state, there were only 2 possible monthly meet-ups I could attend as a transfem. One was for only for trans people in their 20s which means I'd be out of the range within the next year, and the other was for all gender diverse individuals 18 or older.
Both of these left me with that dreaded feeling that comes with starting my transition later in life. Ngl I feel kinda alienated by how young these skew and I'm a bit wary. I might go anyway to the 20s group while I still can and I'll see about the other one. Hopefully at least one of these leads to something positive.
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JohannaChittarra - 2.3yr
down with cis
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Gettin cisphobic with it
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
This week I am practicing waving at people and saying hello, instead of nodding at people and saying hello, as a form of greeting at work. I am told nodding is a Dude Gesture, which must be a Command & Conquer reference else it's completely illogical.
What other secretly gendered gestures and shit do I still have after so long? Honestly this whole "gender" thing seems kinda fuckin stupid sometimes.
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regularassbitch [she/her] - 2.3yr
i spend a lot of time analyzing cis women's gender expression to figure out new cues i hadn't considered. i literally just stopped doing the nod like a year ago after transitioning for half a decade now
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I'm only stopping after nine years :) I have too much autism to do analysis lol, to neurotypicals I probably read like some kind of genderfreak, which tbh is sort of rad. Random people at my bluecollar job will use "they" for me totally unprompted.
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regularassbitch [she/her] - 2.3yr
people would they/them me a whole bunch when i first integrated into this new group. i think cis people would rather short circuit than ask someone what they prefer
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
To be completely fair, I once had a guy in an elevator ask me "hey so are you a guy or a girl?" and I was so floored I couldn't even be snarky. Cis people SUCK at asking, lol.
I refuse to correct them until they get their shit together, Idk. They can wonder and be confused, fuck em. My gender is Fear Incarnate!
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regularassbitch [she/her] - 2.3yr
one time i had spent 2 hours in front of a guy explicitly talking about my gender and he still came up afterwards and asked the same question. i had the same reaction you did, fuck them. read the fucking manual
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RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her] - 2.3yr
I wave and nod. Proof that I'm bigender
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Woah... if someone does both, now I know...
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OpheliaAzure [fae/faer] - 2.3yr
WHAT no idea this was a thing I nod at everyone.
Why do social conventions have to be so confusing, literally have to study people to interact in "appropriate" ways smh
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I fuckin know right, I only found out recently. I just interact "inappropriately" all the dang time, cause fuck em =)
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OpheliaAzure [fae/faer] - 2.3yr
Ladies, is it masculine to rapidly move your head in a vertical range of motion, signifying affirmation and recognition of others?
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Clearly
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good_girl [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
I've been trying to force myself to stop the nod and failing. I really need to stop meeting people's eyes while i'm walking.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Actually I realised today too, one of the reasons I'm such a Nodder is that it's a good excuse to look away from someone very fast
Whereas if I wave at someone and say hello, uh where do my eyes go shit uhhh
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
they say going on e is going to make you cry a bunch and honestly that sounds really nice i need some hormone assisted crying rn
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queermunist she/her - 2.3yr
Prog is what turned on the water works for me, but it is really nice to have a good cry and then feel a little bit better afterwards.
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
It’s so wonderful ngl. The change in feeling emotion is like night and day. I still refer to my old self as being an emotional brick. Nowadays, I feel a full gamut of emotions. It’s commonly said, but it rings true. It’s like when someone puts glasses on for the first time. The world is a much more beautiful place than it was before.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
I remember back in high school i was pretty easily able to be crying but I guess even testosterone puberty can do that shit to you. It still feels weird to admit to yourself "Damn I wish I could cry more" though
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good_girl [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
I'm still waiting for this. Idk if i need to ask to up my dosage or what but i'll see after my new baseline from injections. Everytime I feel a cry coming on I get a rush of euphoria like "Yes finally this is so affirming", but then i lose the cry and paradoxically it makes me sad.
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SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them] - 2.3yr
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
You're late motherfucker!!!
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SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them] - 2.3yr
Sorry late loving Skeletor this time.
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Wheaties [she/her] - 2.3yr
i shaved my sideburns
no more plausible deniability, I wanna try female hormonal chemistry
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JohannaChittarra - 2.3yr
More and more people are saying this!
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good_girl [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
i shaved my sideburns
are sideburns masc? I've been debating shaving mine but my gf said they're neutral.
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Wheaties [she/her] - 2.3yr
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
God has made no mistake. He gave the artist the perfect canvas and gave her all of the tools; Everything she needed to make her masterpiece. I was born to be an autistic trans girl
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
This is poetry & I want it framed on my wall.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
if brevity is the soul of wit then this autistic transfemme got to be the dumbest girl on earth. i literally cannot stop posting/talking
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Relatable mood!!!
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
It’s official. I’m currently in the waiting room of the hospital waiting to be taken back for my bottom surgery. I am out of my mind happy and nervous at the same time. Nice things like this aren’t supposed to happen to me. And yet here we are. It feels like a dream ;w;
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Ocommie63 [she/her] - 2.3yr
Good luck
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Wake [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
Good luck!
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Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's] - 2.3yr
Omg! Good luck
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
good luck!!!!
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
duct taping an epilator to the wall so i can do my back like a bear scratching themselves on a fucking tree
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
Experiencing high anxiety that coincides with estrogen peaks :/ maybe I just need to adjust my dose. Ofc there's a small part of me that is quite scared that I wasn't "meant" for estrogen and I was all wrong about being trans. (Sorry i have been anxious about this for the last while on here :/)Then I have moments where I see old pictures of me as a guy and I'm like who tf is that that looks TERRIBLE and I absolutely never want to be him again. It's so confusign
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Is the anxiety the only thing that makes you think you weren't "meant" for estrogen? Cause if so, nah :)
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
Yeah other than the general intrusive thoughts of like... what If I just tricked myself lmao but then why would I love how pretty I look
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
You're doin' good I'm pretty sure :) also tons of people who are "for" estrogen have issues around it, like cis women lol
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
Lol yeah exactly I'm just being super neurotic about this which is a common issue for me in general lol... ADHD brain -.-
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
Hey I’ve dealt with this before. It eventually went away, but I can only assume it was caused by external factors. I wouldn’t put too much stock into it.
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
It was yes
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heartheartbreak [fae/faer] - 2.3yr
Estrogen peaks are known to cause some mood instability so that may be contributing to it in itself
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
Update: I’m officially in recovery at the hospital. Everything went extremely well. Took way less time than I expected. I just didn’t update sooner cause I was so doped up on pain meds that everything I said would trail off into nonsense.
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JohannaChittarra - 2.3yr
so happy for you!
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Ocommie63 [she/her] - 2.3yr
Awesome glad everything is okay!!! 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
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Wake [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
I'm glad it went well!
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
FIRST AWW YEAH, the fruits of getting up at 7am for work.
Great week, superb posting, thanks again for having me ❤
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Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's] - 2.3yr
Always love when I wake up and see there's 20+ new comments in the trans mega
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
IT'S POPPIN' OFF
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I'm starting to see misogyny around the site and it's starting to concern me. Just seems casual and here and there, but it's getting upvoted, which concerns the hell out of me.
Ayo @SnowySkyes@hexbear.net real? I'd only seen a couple scuffed comments on some of the "woke booba" posts, dang. We hate to see it.
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
There’s been a few that I’ve been able to sus out and had to report most of them. Fortunately they’ve all been removed. Some are “ironic” misogyny which isn’t funny, others are just misogyny, which is less funny. Specifically that one dating post was a minefield. The first thing I saw was the op pissing on polyam folks. That pissed me off. But there were a few in there that had me wanting to retch.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
That dating post killed me, soon as I saw "cishet man zone" I was like oh boy... Glad now that I skipped it after reading the OP. Did you know that polyam people ackshually have it easy & are eating the dating market alive?????
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
That shit pissed me off so much. It was just a toxic, thoughtless thread of poison that I’m surprised didn’t get wholly removed. The one post that really bothered me was some dude saying that western women were broken. That really just screams to me sexpat and misogynist. Piece of garbage.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I had noticed an uptick in dudes making dating posts, but I hadn't paid very close attention cause I was like Eh, let em vent in the general mega I guess? But sometimes it did seem a bit yikes, and if it's gonna lead to things like that thread...
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
It should be reigned in in some way in my eyes, but I am not a site admin so I have no power over that. Like, I don’t mind dating posts, but these folks gotta stop getting weird over it.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
dang i saw it and went "not for me" but if it was that bad you should probably start reporting that stuff. really gross!
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Cab driver guy gendered me and my wife as "girls". This usually wouldn't be that notable, except that My Brother In Christ, I was wearing my work uniform, unkempt and worse than zero effort, not even trying voicewise.
Was cab driver guy doing a bit, or is this the definition of winning? I know it's kinda brainwormed to be suspicious when people gender you correctly, but I tend to expect that my voice will out me most days, but uh it hasnt happened. I feel both extremely satisfied and somewhat confused. Actually I can't even remember the last time I got gendered wrong, gotta be more than a year ago by now. I'm the scary gender-apathetic dyke I always wished to be...
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I got it, it's 'cause I started waving at people instead of nodding at them, for greetings. This action has changed my Essential Gender Energy from Masculine to Feminine, and I am now synchronised and in-tune with the Divine Feminine. Clearly.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
youre winning
one time when i was at like 2 years hrt i started passing even with a very lazily shaved depression beard. it almost felt like everyone had extremely bad eyesight or were in on a conspiracy to be nice to me, sometimes
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
But it turns out you were just winning
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
we're all winning now
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Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's] - 2.3yr
The realisations I've had over the last few weeks that I actually pass is giving me a dangerous amount of confidence
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Ocommie63 [she/her] - 2.3yr
Haiii, how is everyone today, hopefully good!!! Anyways I wish you all to have a great week this week!!! Much love!!! 😘😘😘🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🥰🥰🥰
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
I got a call back this morning from the Patient Advocate revolving around that mess from last week.
::: spoiler CW: Transphobia/Talk about bottom surgery
They called me this morning and told me that they themselves had no real power. They then told me that they would refer the case to the doctor’s supervisor at the clinic I went to for further review. Just a few minutes ago, I received a call from his supervisor. Surprisingly, it was also my general practitioner. He told me that it was unacceptable and told me that it was likely that he was using dictation software. However, considering the frequency and certain ordering of things in the document that it was unlikely it was on accident. He asked if I wanted a call back after he spoke to him tomorrow and I agreed. I’m hoping action is taken, but it’s unlikely.
I honestly wish this whole thing would just go away now. I hate thinking about it. I hate everything about it and it’s poisoning the happiness I should be feeling right now for my bottom surgery next week. This document was going to be kept for a keepsake because it was the final hurdle to get to the surgery aside from just walking into the hospital.
I feel like shit and just want to cry over it. I just wish there were more I could do. But I don’t think I have any protections in this state. I just wish it never happened already. Why do people have to be like this?
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good_girl [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
hey how come no one told me that realizing you're trans makes the dysphoria way worse? my new words i can use only have exacerbated my discomfort
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
You know how when you first become a leftist & read the Manifesto, you see what's wrong with everything all at once and it kind of overwhelms your brain?
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
It’s just one of those things you would never realize. Cause all that pain you felt in the past was just background noise. Now that you have words for it, and now that you know what it is, it has taken form and you can see it for what it is. It’s not fun, but persisting is imperative.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
It’s not fun, but persisting is imperative.
on the one hand, it's been hard enough for the last fuck knows how many years, can I really keep going when it feels worse like this?
on the other hand, I was already prepared to just suck up the dysphoria for the rest of my life. The end is in sight now
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
Let me just say one thing as a woman that is 20 months into transitioning. It gets better. I promise. The pain comes and goes, but the girl stays forever.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
oh god i don't even know how i'm going to manage the second puberty emotions, i'm already having trouble dealing with the ones i have now
::: spoiler volcel criminal shit right here
the thought of "oh my god you can have a girl ass" crossed through my mind at work yesterday and i felt like i needed to lay down holy fuck
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler I'm goin' to volcel jail with ya
I think "having a girl ass" is a deeply underrated aspect of HRT. Cisgender gymrats work themselves half to drath trying to obtain the flawless shape I got from the girljuice.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler from the next cell over
at first i felt really bad/awkward for telling myself i want to feel sexy but like... no, there's nothing wrong with that at all. I should be able to look in the mirror and feel attractive, there's nothing at all perverted about that
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler In Volcel Jail~
Yeah :) Or if there is something perverted about it, it's the cool & good kind we uncritically support!!
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler spoiler
yeah lmao. i keep having that one thought that says "what if it's just a fetish. which 1. no, it absolutely isn't and 2. if it was? point to the rule where it says it can't be
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
::: spoiler ネタバレ
Damn you’re lucky. I’ve had to put a ton of effort into getting an ass that’s just barely starting to come in. The HRT hasn’t done anything for me in that regard.
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queermunist she/her - 2.3yr
An old jacket of mine I really liked doesn't fit anymore and it's got me feeling some kind of way. I can wear it, but when it's zipped I can't breathe lol
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
inside of me there are two radically different trans femmes and they're both trying to win me over like they're trying to call over a puppy to see who the dog REALLY loves
edit: oh i think these are OCs come to think of it. fuck. i guess this is a thing i have now
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RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her] - 2.3yr
Keep resisting them and let them fight for your attention
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
OH NO! HOT TRANS FEMMES WHO DESPERATELY WANT MY ATTENTION! OH GOD ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!!!
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RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her] - 2.3yr
Choose me, chungus
No, She's gonna choose me!
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GunslingerSky [she/her] - 2.3yr
Found an informed consent clinic that is "near" me but takes video calls so I don't have to wait months for care hopefully. Just keep getting too anxious to call them to make an appointment
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JohannaChittarra - 2.3yr
All of the yeses and maybes on gender diverse survey is really uplifting. I love reading about everyone’s personal experiences with their gender.
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Babs [she/her] - 2.3yr
This is the most pro-trans website out there that isn't explicitly a trans community.
But also, big respect to the cis people in that thread who are like "yeah I've thought a lot about my gender and I'm definitely cis."
Even our cissies are more cis than the average person.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I think this is also the most pro-trans website out there that is a trans community?
Also WE LOVE OUR CISSIES DONT WE FOLKS
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
I keep doing gender affirmation for myself in the absolute dumbest possible way by just saying the normal, gender neutral shit I'm doing is actually girl stuff and super femme. Frozen pizzas for dinner is femme now. The worst part about this is that it actually sort of works
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
That's the best part wdym? Can confirm frozen pizza is femme, a classic really.
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
I’m in such an immense amount of pain today. My cycle decided to start today of all days and it’s causing muscles that were just cut through to cramp up on me, which is so intensely painful that I’m just trying to stay asleep at all times at this point.
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Ocommie63 [she/her] - 2.3yr
I hope it passes quickly
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Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's] - 2.3yr
I woke up at 4 AM from a nightmare that a shadowy organization had broken into my house and confiscated all my estrogen vials and it took me several minutes to realize it was just a dream
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Discussion of slur reclaimation, I try to avoid reproducing slurs but I gotta here and there so CW slurs, 4ch discussion
Something I had kind of memoryholed until just recently is that the kids, broadly speaking I guess under-20s, are trying to take back the t-slur! I have seen it in a Black Dresses server (surely the most apt place for this to happen) and also on tumblr generally. I'm pretty sure people do it irl too.
This isn't new for the trans community, ofc; if you read the ultraclassic Gender Outlaw(Bornstein), or indeed Trans Liberation(Feinberg), you can catch people identifying by "he-she", "f*ggot", "transvestite" and many other quaint slurs, and generally I think I support the motion to reclaim the t-slur. It seems like /pol/ and the gang have had to move onto the etymologically poor, far less effective "tr**n" as a substitute, slur downgrade, which is what we wanna see.
I have permanent brainrot though, like some of those /lgbt/ brainworms might never come out. I've tried using it for myself and such once or twice, but it's just burned into my brain as a 4chan thing, and all I can remember is getting bullied by tripcodes and called AGP and stuff on /mtfg/. Classic.
It feels kind of lame, because I like "dyke" and "queer" for myself, and while I wouldn't use "f*ggot" for myself, it doesn't touch any nerves. But that stupid blue board ruined my mind, and I'll forever be unable to get with it, I guess.
Uh thoughts if you have em? Idk how old or young the average age skews here =) Curious for other people's takes on this specific instance of slur reclaimation.
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler spoiler
Idk. I fucming hate the t-slur and the f-slur. Like, I have friends taking it back, and whatever. But it always makes my skin crawl no matter who says it. I get it in theory though but I just can't engage with that
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler spoiler
At least I'm not alone, I suppose, can't-engage solidarity.
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
::: spoiler ネタバレ
I honestly have zero desire to try and reclaim. It would honestly take an immense amount of effort. It would also require being capable of gathering a significant amount of folks that are okay with being called such words. I, personally, think they should be lost to the sands of time and not rehabbed. They are despicable words with despicable histories. We should just find new words.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Replacing the spoiler tag word is fun
I see! I'm curious to know, do you feel this way about every single slur that's ever been or tried to be reclaimed? I find it hard to argue against your view as well, though, honestly.
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
::: spoiler ネタバレ
I don’t know about any reclaimed slurs. I simply don’t. But as it is, a lot of slurs nowadays are fairly prevalent in highly public spaces. For many, it does and will still cause pretty significant trauma. I don’t really believe reclaiming slurs like t-girl or equivalents is really worth doing for this purpose. Why cause a lot of people mental harm simply because you want to use a word? It’s simply nonsense to me.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler ネタバレ
The hope is to take the bite away from it, remove its power and deprive queerphobes of a shitty thing to call us. Again I find it hard to disagree with you though. Much to think abt...
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler slurs
i don't like, regularly call myself the big t-slur, but i will for effect or if i think it's the only word that works in the situation. like when i had to explain the concept of reclaiming slurs to my mom or if i need to emphasize transphobia in a discussion. sometimes i'm with friends who are much bigger on reclaiming it and i can get into the mood then. i definitely don't think this is exclusively under-20 thing, most of the people i follow on tumblr doing this are at least that old (as am i) but it seems to skew young. i am also pro-reclaimation, but i totally get not feeling good about using it or hearing it.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler My favourite!!
I see, it def works for effect lol. Gotta be in "the mood" to use it... Also wow, you explained this concept to your mom? Wild, that's rad.
The fact that I thought it was mostly under-20s shows that I don't go outside enough :) Makes sense it skees younger though, older generations have a higher chance of feeling weird-bad things about it ✨ Maybe I'll get over the brainworms someday... Fwiw I can tolerate hearing it fine enough, exposure kinda gelps with that too, but saying it, Idk ever.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
i feel like i'm going to get banned from the trans mega if i post too much so i only post like 15% of the stuff that i want to. still fun though :)
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
Post however you wish imo. Activity is always welcome in my eyes. Plus it’s always fun to see a babby trans work through their feelings. It’s stuff that almost all of us went through at some point.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
alright but i'm screenshotting this comment and pulling it up again when next week's trans megathread has 500 comments and half of them are mine
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Me checking the megathread at 6am the day it goes up and calculating that the comments are 45% me by volume
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SnowySkyes - 2.3yr
I’ve been had!
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
24 hour surveillance of our local pet rabbit's brainwaves
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
local pet rabbit's brainwaves
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oh wait that's me. i can't believe i forgot about the fact i've been using big chungus in my username for the past... 3 years
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I feel this way too (I am a loud poster) but when are you not supposed to POST HARD on bear website?? The people here are very nice.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
spam me. im ready
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Babs [she/her] - 2.3yr
Saw a new doctor today for my hrt - I have plenty of meds but really just want my blood tests covered by insurance. It's always been really nerve-wracking talking about DIY with doctors ever since I had some bad experiences with my first few, but this doctor was just respectfully curious, wanted to know where it came from. Seems the mood towards DIY has changed since the 2000s. Or maybe it's just because I've been on it so long. Either way, It's nice.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler No Unjust Depths spoilers just gay mushy garbage ❤
Ulyana sighed a little inside, but she should have expected this anyway.
It wasn't like she had put a ring on her finger or anything.
She had not even confessed just how deep her feelings for this furry- eared, bright-eyed, thin-tailed Shimii had become. How much any word of support from her meant to Ulyana. Aaliyah, more than she knew, turned immediately into Ulyana's guiding light whenever she spoke. With this woman at her side, the Captain felt like she could go anywhere and conquer any obstacle.
This was not something that Ulyana could say out loud.
Chin up, Captain Ulyana!! Let the far-flung goal of Aaliyah ear-scritches be your motivating force!! You can save this fumble!!! Uncritical support!!!!
Tbh the idea that Ulyana has like no experience actually being in a deep relationship is just, let your "irrational girlish longing" flow, captain. Ugh I adore her, she can do it.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler my god these bitches gay
i love them so much. ulyana is so good, aaliyah is so good, they're great together. i'm rooting for them!
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Good for them!
I can't wait for everyone to do the "awwwwh mom and dad finally made up!" when they finally do kiss, also who's the dad I wonder...
I demand more Aaliyah time though, every second she is onscreen is wonderful. My #1 favourite cat!
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler sonic speech bubble
it feels like they'd try and keep it private, right? don't want to distract from the mission. they might not even start going out until it's done, gotta keep things professional
whenever aaliyah isn't on screen the other characters should be asking "where's aaliyah?"
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler lol
I mean they would and they do, but they're such painfully obvious lil homos, like no way is Fatima or Semonyova (or Genivov or de la Rosa, probably) not turned around watching them when they don't notice y'know? The bridge crew will know and it'll be cute :3
THEY SHOULD, and sometimes I wonder what a commissar gets up to when she's not advising the captain. Does she cart around copies of theory to people?? IIRC a commissar's job is to keep the military accountable to the people, which feels funny on a black-ops mission. I know she does her little logbook...
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler catgirl commissar
that's true
we get some really good aaliyah stuff later. a commissar is like, supposed to make sure the ship isn't doing counterrevolutionary stuff i guess, but not too much to worry about rn except maybe marina. elena definitely has problems but isn't going to try anything, you know?
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Comrade Commissar Catgirl!!!
I can't wait to get more really good Aaliyah :) thankful that my fav cat can just chill out and vibe for now.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler all purpose cultural catgirl aaliyah
yeah she's so good, she's enjoying herself with ulyana
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
my coworker called me "sweet angel" today. I don't think she really meant anything by it but oh wow uhhhh... can you say that 5 more times?
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vertexarray [any] - 2.3yr
Really wanna hear the Ballroom Blitz in the club again
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Jenniferrr [she/her, comrade/them] - 2.3yr
I usually inject once every.5 days but today is day 6 and I still haven't done it... I'm feeling quite weird and kinda raw and depressed. Is this expected or just me? Anyone else have any experience?
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Babs [she/her] - 2.3yr
When I was on valerate I would often have a pretty down mood the on needle day/the day before. Hasn't been an issue since moving to enanthate though, which I assume is because longer halflife on the same 7 day cycle = stable levels.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
is there like a single reddit post or brief guide out there on how to do trans femme shit? i don't want to bumble around asking the same question that's been asked 100,000 times before like "where the fuck do i get estrogen?" and "there an informed consent clinic nearby, do i just call them ask for an appointment or what?"
i honestly just prefer reading stuff rather than watching youtube tutorials but really i just want to know how to ask that informed consent clinic for E. god i'm fucking sick of this cisgender shit.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
I think you do just call them to set up an appointment. Ring them and be like "Hi, I am looking to talk to a physician about getting prescribed hormone replacement therapy, because I want this summer to be a Hot Girl Summer for me"! Very exciting.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
maybe something slightly less bubbly and more serious, but yeah. i get nasty phone anxiety just trying to do something like order a pizza from a pizza place, let alone asking for estrogen
then again, if you call a pizza place, what else but pizza would you be asking for? same rule goes for HRT i guess
here's hoping the wait list is under 2 months
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
YEAH Phone anxiety sucks, kept me from hormones for a good while, but uh it's worth it lol.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
if you need me to pull it all up for you, i can dm you my matrix and infodump you on literally everything youd ever need to know. incl resources state by state and so on
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
noted. might do that later tonight or maybe tomorrow :)
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queermunist she/her - 2.3yr
I was getting a factory warranty for my car registered and I had to give my legal name w/ driver's license --I haven't gotten that shit changed yet -- but my voice training must have paid off because person on the phone just carried on calling me ma'am for the rest of the call. ☺️
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Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's] - 2.3yr
Got an massive wave of dysphoria at work today because of the boymoding. Started to question why I fucking do this to myself. I'm lucky enough to be in a place where it wouldn't cause problems for me if people knew that I'm trans, the only reason I boymode is because it would be a little bit scary not to. It's really not worth feeling like shit just to avoid that. I'm done with this and I'm just gonna show up fem next week.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
You can do it, it's gonna be rad
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Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's] - 2.3yr
Thanks! It's gonna be great to present a way I feel comfortable It's not that big leap of a leap at this point. I've been dressing androgynous, often gender-neutral, but occasionally leaning pretty fem, for the last couple months there, and usually get gendered correctly by visitors, so I don't think anyone is gonna react in any major way to me taking the extra step.
Part of why I felt dysphoric today was probably because my outfit was way too masc-leaning rather than gender neutral, but that still seems like a good sign that ending the half-measures and just being myself is gonna be good for me at this point.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
No more half-measures
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khizuo [ze/zir] - 2.3yr
I still live with my family who are in that gray area of "we aren't going to actively be transphobic but we also aren't going to make any efforts to try to gender you correctly or show support to you" and my mom expressed some disapproval with trans/queer stuff in the past and I worry that if I start taking T it would be a step too far in her eyes. But maybe I should just bite the bullet and start looking for informed consent HRT near me because I don't know how much longer I can take this and also the changes might not be the most noticeable to start with.
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khizuo [ze/zir] - 2.3yr
My loneliness exacerbates my (many) mental illnesses and my mental illnesses exacerbate my loneliness... and the lack of HRT isn't helping.
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Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's] - 2.3yr
Wearing my new sneakers around the house because they're so gender affirming
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milistanaccount09 [she/her] - 2.3yr
HRT question: I understand that smokers aren't supposed to take estradiol as pills due to the risk of blood clots. Is this true for all types of smoking or only nicotine? Wondering if it's safe for me to smoke weed.
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
all types of nicotine, including patches, i believe there is also some correlation with various additives in cigarettes like arsenic as well. weed should be fine if its just weed.
in general you should avoid nicotine at all costs as a trans woman, it also inhibits E
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milistanaccount09 [she/her] - 2.3yr
Awesome, good to know
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
so today at work was fun. i was nauseously dysphoric all day and felt like i wanted to throw up for a whole 8 hours . i have absolutely no words for this. even now i still feel off and gross. getting called "sir" or the name that's on my name tag has never hurt like this. for the first two hours today i wanted to cry. I haven't changed any (visible) physical thing about my presentation but it just hurts more now? what the fuck???
at the very least, i have many years experience of sucking down a ton of difficult emotions and powering through a day of school/work anyway, so at least i was prepared
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
at the very least, i have many years experience of sucking down a ton of difficult emotions and powering through a day of school/work anyway, so at least i was prepared
in retrospect this is an extraordinarily trans statement lol
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BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 2.3yr
Anyone have any good resources on/about trans people who don't realize it until later(ish) in life (18+)? I keep having this nagging feeling about not liking being a guy (this has been happening for months now) but my childhood was very cis and every time I hear trans people talk about when they "knew" they were like 7. I don't know exactly what I feel like I should be either.
Anyway, might be nothing, but still would be interesting to hear/read about it.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
a lot of people don't figure themselves out until adulthood. you definitely aren't alone, i'd guess the majority of trans folks are in that same boat. the problem is that until fairly recently if you didn't say "i knew when i was 4 that i was a girl" you probably wouldn't be able to transition 'legitimately' so that's what people have in their heads. "if i didn't know when i was young it doesn't count," and obviously that's bullshit but it sticks with you
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
Anyone have any good resources on/about trans people who don't realize it until later(ish) in life (18+)?
every time I hear trans people talk about when they "knew" they were like 7. I don't know exactly what I feel like I should be either.
yeah AMA. describes me pretty well
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BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 2.3yr
I guess my big two questions are how did you realize you were trans, and what did it feel like (at first)?
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
I'll be blunt, it only came to me about a month ago, and I am still really going through the emotions right now.
In a weird sense, it sort of did come at one big moment when it really did click, but like, for the two-three months prior, i spent a ton of time really working on myself and trying to get at the root of why I felt so bad all the time. At first it was the obvious things, stop drinking so goddamn much and start going to the gym instead, trying really addressing what kind of emotions and trauma came from the alienation of growing up with the unremovable "kid from the special ed class" label. And I really did start working through my problems instead of burying them, but as I started really starting to address shit, all of the emotions that I just labeled as "child trauma, probably" really did start to not really add up. There was a missing ingredient that I couldn't just explain away by being bullied for being a weird kid when I was 9.
As I kept internally searching I kept feeling more and more... shook with myself, until finally one day it just... snapped into place. These emotions I'm feeling is dysphoria caused by me not liking my gender expression, and I can get rid of them by transing my gender
The day after I was visibly shook all fucking day. The closer I got to the egg cracking, the worse I was feeling, and when it cracked was when the floodgates really poured open. Those emotions, once finally reckoned with, all started to make sense
After going through the inventory of all of my past trauma, experiences, and emotions over the course of 3 months with a cis lense, I've started to do it again with a trans one, and it... really is explaining a lot more. I really was a lot more eggy than I admitted to myself
I have countless paragraphs more to say but my 10 minute break is up and I can only type so damn much on my phone. I can explain more later if you like
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BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 2.3yr
Thank you for sharing your experience with me, that is very helpful.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
dm me any time, i can give you a 20 page essay if you want :)
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
later(ish) in life (18+)?
i only knew i was trans since puberty, not since i was a kid. its not uncommon for people to learn much later, as you transition oftentimes you begin to remember odd little moments as time goes on from your youth, though
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
yeah i am constantly remembering shit i did when i was a kid and going "oh, that was dysphoria"
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Wake [she/her, they/them] - 2.3yr
Things continue to get better and better between my partner and myself.
::: spoiler boring relationship stuff
I'm starting to get over my fears of talking about my transition with my partner, and we've been having some of the best conversations of our 10 year relationship. He keeps reiterating how much he loves me and that he's not leaving. Which are things I desperately needed to hear. I've stopped presenting as male at home pretty much all the time now. He's also started to gender me differently at home which has been incredible. He referred to me and my dog as ladies last night and I nearly died.
He's also expressed his fears. Which are the same fears I have. Societal backlash, family issues, friends, employment. We live in a safe neighborhood in a safe city, but we are surrounded by an ocean of reactionaries. But I legitimately feel like we can overcome anything together.
In other semi-related news, my therapist diagnosed me with OCD on Tuesday. Which isn't surprising really. I have some powerful compulsions that are driven by an extreme fear of rejection. I'm pretty sure most of my internalized transphobia comes from those same fears of rejection. I know for a fact that my complete inability to talk about this stuff with my partner is driven by those fears.
All in all it's been an interesting week.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Love to hear it, glad your partner is a chill dude Sounds like you're in a pretty good spot honestly, happy for you.
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
I keep getting struck by "holy shit how did i not realize sooner" followed by "honestly i'm shocked it didn't take longer to realize" and both sides have some good points
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Zezzy [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler CW: internet transphobia and bad feelings
Hate seeing "AFAB vs AMAB" essentialism and "transfems are like this" bullshit even on lefty places like here. I'm probably just being oversensitive and should delete all social media but youtube animal facts. I feel like I can't trust anywhere on the internet to accept trans people.
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
They just made it the new gender binary to do essentialism with again Did something shitty happen on bear website that I (thankfully) missed?
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kristina [she/her] - 2.3yr
Who do I need to fight?
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
uninformed consent clinic where they tell you what HRT will do to you only through very cryptic poetry in a centuries dead language
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
me 2 months ago: <--- full of sad
me now: <--- full of fun t girl music
like lmao it really took 20+ fuckin years to figure this puzzle out
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
Share ur fun t girl music pls? I only have Black Dresses and G.L.O.S.S.!
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
my friend made me a spotify playlist for me. haven't listened through all of it yet but instead i've been listening to the wallsockets album by underscores
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::: spoiler Some 8.10/8.11 Unjust Depths discussion, mech battles n character things
okay remember how I said I wanted more Murati flashbacks, my heart might not be able to take it. In 8.11 you get to see ten year old Sonya and I'm like BAWWWWWWWW LOOK HOW CUTE SHE IS, LOOK HOW EXCITED SHE IS AT GETTIN GENDER AFFIRMED Zasha is such a cool older sister, she lectures about the meaning of combat and supports her kid sister transitioning... but like look at this adorable lil autist, "It's like crazy how good I am" yes it is you little fucking lovable dork, you ARE the hero!!! and she has a stuffed cuttlefish lol. I wonder what thats about =)
Also the mech fights in this chapter? 11/10 no notes, Sieglinde getting battered by Khajida with two chainswords while receiving a vicious roasting had me like FUCKING GET ER KHAJIDA, SHOW THAT BITCH WHAT A UNION PILOT WITH SOMETHING TO FIGHT FOR CAN DO!!! Similarly, Sonya diving out of the way of the Option drone, baiting it to shoot the Jagdkaiser because Selene is a fucking idiot? When Sonya says I'm not a lab rat! I'm Sonya Shalikova! You think this is fun? Are you enjoying yourself?, uncritical support to Sonya in her pitched battle to murder Selene. There is an interesting footnote tho:
"She generated no ambient emotions for Selene to pick up. She was invisible to psionic senses."
I thought Sonya just had really strong latent powers that stopped Maryan from reading her, but... is the implication here that Sonya is invisible to psionic vision cause shes just that fuckin autistic that her emotions are unreadable?
Shalikova felt like crying - she was crying - there was so much pouring out of her. She knew it was irrational, but she was so affected by the emotions she felt from Selene.
It definitely feels subtextually like psionic autism. Lol.
In other news, and since it so rudely interrupted the climax of battle, (a classic shonen battle trope) oh god for fuck's sake, I didn't realise we'd be getting flashback scenes of sad egg vibes in this, oh it puts me in mind of James H in Nevada holy shit. Going home to his shitty apartment in Star City to try on a dress and smoke weed and be depressed, as Marina does. I am so fucking dismayed that the word transvestism survived from the surface world, oh fuckin man Republic delenda est...
I do find it kind of funny that Marina has to shoulder all the internalised transphobia in this plot, because everyone else is too cool and rad.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler psionic autism is the name of my new band
baby sonya is so good! she's so excited to be a girl and be like zasha. i really like the characterization we get of zasha where she's clearly not 100% on board with the change but is really trying as hard as she can to not let sonya know. it IS crazy how good she is!
god yeah the khadija sieglinde fight is so good. sieglinde is so caught up in her own conception of herself, where she hates fighting and has given up any hope for the future even for herself, that she cannot imagine that anyone she views as a peer could have legitimate principles. i feel bad for her, she's incredibly pathetic
selene is pretty pathetic as well but in a very different way. i still like her because she sucks in a way i find compelling but she SUCKS. it rules seeing sonya kick her ass
baby egg marina is so sad. the republic is truly evil they are JUST america and this story understands how horrifying that is. the bit where they have cars for literally no reason and they make it so much worse to live there is like. damn, this story gets it
also it's so funny that all the gia agents have american president code names. america is always on its bullshit, even in the underwater postapocalypse
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Sick bandname!!
I absolutely demand the author quit tugging my heart strings like this, I'm not gonna last if these flashbacks to dorky kid versions of my favourite characters persist. Gets me every time ✨ I was very pleased to learn that Zasha does not deserve the wall tbh, the entire sequence is wonderful. Can we have more Zasha too actually?
Y'know, the Antenora is literally just a ship of fools huh? I think Norn and Adelheid are the only ones onboard who aren't total losers. Selene is a eugenics-pick-me, Gertrude is an empty-headed dork who puts "get GF" before any critical thought, Sieglinde projects her total lack of conviction & ideals onto her lifelong for and gets rekt for it(I was glued to the page). They're all clowns and I think I love it - Gertrude absolutely deserved that dressing-down Adelheid gave her, unexpected based Adelheid moment.
I still don't find Selene to be that compelling, like I don't want to be in her head unlike everybody else, but if her purpose was to get sandbagged by Sonya, job well done. The fight was superb, I could watch Sonya take a psionic supremacist down a peg any day. I was mad when the Marina flashback cut this fight off, I know someone is gonna save Sonya but I wanna see, pls let her be ok :/
Idk, sitting in your dark, shitty apartment in lacy undergarments and smoking your depression away, I mean it's kind of a vibe. It's such a vivid image and I've seen it a few times, I was nodding along. "Ah yes, relatable. Can't wait for her to be forcefemmed." My mood was kind of all over the place reading Marina's bit, there was that scene and then the "Piedmont must have thought he was a fucking queer" which made me snort, I love how crass and sweary Marina is. But then you meet Leda and it's like That is not how I expected the " had a knife held to her cock" line to be paid off?? How should I feel???? I guess I expected the Leda/Marina/Bethany thing to be... okay well maybe not "wholesome" but not THAT, what the fuck. No adequate face, except kbity-how I guess. Consent, where are you now...
Lmao okay is it weird that I kind of hate the Republic more than the Empire? The Republic seems like a very serious hellhole, like maybe as bad as the slavery empire. In general I am dismayed that so much has survived under the sea. The Union should liberate this place fr fr.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler ty
never! next up is baby ulyana living under the empire and being radicalized into a revolutionary! yeah zasha isn't perfect but she's doing self crit and trying her best, and she clearly loves sonya so much. though i have bad news regarding what we already know about zasha
yeah lmao. hunter iii isn't a loser but that's because she's very no thoughts head empty all she wants to do is grill eat raw meat! selene sucks but it's so fun to see her get wrecked by someone she sees as lesser. sieglinde's fight is better but that's not really saying much given how good it is
marina's whole thing is so good. the leda stuff is like. NOT what i expected and it's wild. and no i think it's very fair to hate the republic, they're INCREDIBLY evil. truly madiha gets it
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler yw!
Oh nooooo that'll be sad vibes, I'll end up discovering why Yana is such a dork and fumbles cool cultural catgirls Way better than Deshnov, I was worried every trans-sibling was gonna be a clown... I will say the Children's Halls are incredibly fascinating to me, that kids get raised with a degree of autonomy and all, I think I dig that.
Ah right I literally forgot about Hunter III I love her! Uncritical support to our hungry aphotic salamander!!! Her head-empty is very refreshing actually. Potomac was also not a loser even if the Sunlight org is pretty sus. All of the silly puppies onboard though, Yurii and Petra and also Ingrid, they're kinda losers too if pitiable =) Where is my dog girl communism, why so few? Idk though, I mean Khajida v Sieglinde is super killer, but Sonya v Selene that begins with failson getting rekt? Sonya thanking Maryan for her psionics? I adore that shit maybe just as much.
Yeah uh when she forcefemmes you at knifepoint?? I... guess that's something? I keep hoping Marina is okay but she is so clearly not. The republic is also an empire >:3
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler i love that cultural catgirl is catching on, though i never watched that show
yeah i was referencing the children's halls when you got to that deshnov flashback. kids have options if they want independence! it's cool, i dig it
hmm. the mechanics of the selene fight are cooler, but the 20 year history between khadija and sieglinde is so good, realizing the true extent to which sieglinde had been wallowing in her misery over realizing that she was a tool for empire without seeing an alternative is just killer. but that's a good point, sonya thanking maryam is v good
yeah marina is very much not ok. the republic is exactly as much of an empire as the empire yeah
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Idk the reference I just thought it was funny c:
Ohhhhhh now I see =) Yeah that's really cool, fuck the Union is so rad all the time...
I love that both happen at once, excited to see Sonya kiss her cuttlefish when she gets back! Also though I just got to 8.13 and I'm like MURATI NO YOU SHOULDNT BE OUT HERE WTF, DONT BREAK YOUR FUCKING NECK YOU DUMB BITCH STOP THAT, although also hey, maybe Karuniya can develop some character traits here? I do want to see her become her own person...
E: Oh a Karuniya flashback!
E2: Oh... a Karuniya flashback
Either way Marina is gonna need to get those brainworms out, she is doing the lib thing of going "weh capitalism bad evil empire" but still calling people "commies"... Marina Re-Education Camp
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler the reference is all purpose cultural catgirl nukunuku
which i THOUGHT was one of the anime airing on american tv that had the 9/11 sympathies message during broadcast but i misremembered, it was just on the same channel. (serial experiments lain neon genesis evangelion and sakura wars were the three)
and yeah i wish i lived in the union so fucking bad
yeah they both rule. this arc just has really good booking! and the karuniya murati duo mech is cool as hell
i like karuniya's flashback i think it's cute and i like hearing her talk about ocean facts. but she's still pretty ancillary to murati, i do wish she got more on her own here
yeah marina is still a massive lib, regardless of how sympathetic she is
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Unjust Depths, just talking about our protagonist
I wanted to write a lil appreciation of Murati Nakara because she is a wonderful bean.
When you first meet her in the intro to Unjust Depths she almost seems kind of silly. The only things she really has going on are her girlfriend Karuniya, (they seem to have an uncomplicated and wonderful relationship) her skill at diver piloting and her ambition in the military. To be honest, early on I had thought she didn't really have any flaws, but she takes a good while to unfurl and bloom as a character.
Murati is not among the several autistic lesbians in Depths, that I know of anyway, but her staunch hard-headedness is very appealing! Much later in the series she's talking to this scientist lady who knew her parents, the famous revolutionaries the Nakaras, and she is borderline affronted when science lady says "Yeah they did a lot of great shit but they were mostly just oceanographers lol, idealists really" and it's borderline adorable. I can really respect how strongly she feels about her Mordecist beliefs and sense of justice. When she first steps off the Brigand and into an Imperial city, her moment of utter shock at a capitalist hellhole that leaves its people destitute and homeless is superb for her. Murati might be a military-strategic galaxybrain and a steadfast revolutionary, but she's also somewhat green, and her single-minded commitment to justice can sometimes cause problems, like she bothers Captain Ulyana for money to try to house these homeless guys in the Empire, holding up a critical extraction mission.
What I really want from her is more flashbacks, though. Stepping back in time about fifteen years and finding out that not only has Murati always been like this, but she was equally loud and brash about matters of her gender is a wonderful thing. She went from "good" to "great" though when she gave her adoptive parent Deshnov shit about his goofy-ass "allowed you to go on tbose medications" spiel.
It's fairly uncommon to see trans kids in fiction, unless it's some kind of Young Adult, coming-of-age story I guess, likely because the vast majority of trans people now still transition in their 20s or 30s. I'm weird though, and so the idea that an indignant, righteously angry 12 year old Murati had to lash out against Deshnov (and probably everybody else Idk) to get her way and be who she is? Wow, she just like me, fr fr. That's something I can really relate to, and even just hinting at that kind of hardship for her has me deeply invested basically for free. I feel a great affection for the First Officer, the Brigand couldn't ask for a better Diver Leader and I'm always excited when she is onscreen. Murati, my beloved ❤
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler murati my beloved!
i had a whole thing written but fucked up and somehow deleted it orz
but yeah she's so good and the ways she develops and deepens as the story unfolds is tremendous. i could see an autistic read of her, special interest mordecaist theory and political structures. her naivety is so good, thinking about how it would be to live your whole life in a communist state and then be exposed to the horrors of capitalism for the first time is so well drawn
and that flashback is a standout moment in a story full of standout moments, i really love murati so much. her firm self knowledge from the very beginning makes so much sense
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Transbian Commie Hours!
Nooooo not the whole thing written up!!
She doesn't seem as firmly autistic as a Potomac or a Shalikova, but yeah special interest in theory ans structures, I dig it. I also thought it was profoundly goofy when her narration insisted that the state of the water and the animals was a secondary concern, like that's not very materialism of you :) Karuniya's gonna have to sort that one out, lmao. One of the things I truly adore about Depths is that its characters tend to gain complexity slowly as they move through their arcs, so I can always look forward to cool developments from them.
I envy Murati having never seen a capitalism Must be rad...
I knoooooowwwww right??? Such a good underlining of her character, I literally adore her smh. I think Ulyana's stupid bit might still be my favourite but they may be tied Idk!
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler need more transbian commie rep in fiction
yeah for sure. unjust depths has so much subtle character work in the narration, it's a really strong element. (my other big recent recommendation, otherside picnic, is way less subtle but it's so strong there as well. love how much characterization it fits into sorawo's narration and how dumb she is about feelings). and yeah murati certainly isn't done having new wrinkles added! one of my favorite things about her hasn't shown up where you are yet!
god i wish that were me
i think murati is like, 4th or 5th for me? can't say 2 of them because they're spoilers*, but i think ulyana and shalikova might be above her, but murati would be #1 in basically any other story. and there's a lot of really strong characters right behind her!
*one of them hasn't shown up yet and the other hasn't gotten most of the development that makes me love them so i don't want to mess with your expectations
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Tbh I'm kind of surprised there aren't more...
It is really good, pleasantly surprised. The line-to-line writing in general is a lot more than just serviceable. I may slam my head against Otherside again at some point, it was decent but I dunno what 2chan /x/ is like, and the uh "anime dialogue" sort of put me off, like I could just picture each scene as a slice-of-life scene in a manga with whacky facial expressions. I d k
Oh shit really? I'm so hyped for that, I'm very game for more new aspects to her ✨
Damn 4th or 5th, yeah I can't disagree though, I guess romancebrain means I'm weak for a good pairing but the Ulyana/Aaliyah and Shalikova/Maryan duos bring me a great deal of joy. I'm looking forward to even morr superb additions to the cast ✨
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler it's an outrage is what it is
yeah that's fair. i do think it gets a lot better as the series goes on. i understand "it starts a little shakey and very anime but by the 8th book it's one of my favorite stories of all time" is a bit of a hard sell though. but like, the way sorawo and toriko develop is really incredible and where they end up as of the latest book is one of my all time favorite relationships in anything
my favorite characters are all a little bit just like me fr, but there isn't that much of a common thread. mostly i just love whenever something nice happens with them, constantly cheering whenever we get a hangout chapter and my faves get to just chill with their gfs (or not yet gfs as the case may be)
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler This has 8.7/8.8 spoilies
To be fair it wasn't even bad, so that's not a super hard sell. I should give it the entire runtime of the first book at least. I was genuinely curious to know what's up with these funny doors that have bootleg SCPs behind them! I desire scifi-horror-gayromance! The other contributing factor was, I have this thing that happens, every two months or so, if I do not read something that is Gay & Trans in nature, I will wither away and expire. So I got hit with one of those, and Unjust Depths was just sitting there looking all sumptuous and gay...
Whenever characters are actually truly all the way relatable ❤ Aside Selene there's not really a character I dislike yet, Sieglinde getting hit on by Yurii was peak comedy. "I do like women bigger than me", you literal horny dog!!!
ALSO aaaaaaaaaa the Antenora just showed up at the Gorge oh no whats gonna happen
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler unjust depths
yeah that's totally fair. i also need gay trans shit sometimes! slowburn scifi horror lesbians is great but communist transbian mecha is better
the only characters i don't like are the ones you are supposed to dislike, like failson or the first confirmed straight man. sieglinde is great!
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Reflections on Unjust Depths 8.5/8.6
Ok I adore how Shalikova and Maryan have completely different circumstances and upbringings, but conditions bring them to similar experiences over which they can bond and grow closer. The colours are cool new psionic powers only to be shared between you, sunshiney cuttlefish, and your new autistic mech pilot gf.
I still find Maryan to be a deeply weird character, which I guess is what happens when you get vat-grown to be a navigator for a warlord, but I'm down with her motivations and find her endearing, her backstory seems neat c: She is a land of contrasts; she has this adorably idealistic speech about how she believes everyone can and should use psionics, all deeper-understandings-between-people stuff... but we're talking about sandwich-thieving, dream-influencing cuttlefish lady, lmao. She has interesting ideas.
I was laughing my ass off when Maryan was giving that speech and Shalikova was like "Yeah but u got no dialectical materialism fam, no peace while the bourgeoisie persist" shine on, Sonya Shalikova.
Meanwhile Norn is a character who's improved by leaps and bounds to my eye. I think her main issue is she's always got this mask and can't say anything without making it a Disney villain monologue or something, so she can seem kind of silly sometimes, but her little moments of kindness I find very admirable, she's sweet at times:
"I don't understand. What- what's the point for you? Why would you go out of your way and challenge Euphrates? Why would you agree to release me afterward? I don't understand! I'm just a random piece of biological equipment!"
"No you are not. You are a scared girl who is being done wrong in the same way that I was by the exact same people."
"So- so what? If that's what you think then are you turning your back on the Sunlight Foundation?"
Norn grinned. "The only reason I am 'helping' them is to take advantage. To stop them from getting their way all the time. I won't stand them for them having you, so I took you away. You don't belong in their silver cage."
Adelheid spoke up. "Selene, Norn won't admit it, but she does care about you."
Like I wasn't expecting much from the Selene-Norn connection, but this is my favourite dysfunctional gay family.
Conversely though I gotta say, I sincerely do not understand Selene's wonderment at her parents existing. It would probably be deeply disquieting to have been made as a genetic weapon, as an experiment with intent to kill, sure; but that is what her parents did, basically, as she had already assumed. The only extra "context" it provides is that she's a genetic experiment made by some woman having an affair. I guess personally I've never been that concerned with the intent for or context of my existence, partly because I can't ascertain it. Sure, it'd be super weird if I found out tomorrow that I'm secretly a lab experiment or whatever, but that wouldn't change my existence on its own. Someone somewhere brought me into being; beyond that, it's mine to decide what to do with. It seems weird to me that Selene is so obsessed with the idea that two people vat-birthed her for a eugenics experiment, instead of the usual Katarran vat-birth for a specific job.
And then on top of that, the "context" that Selene is so obsessed with is apparently being a really good genetic superweapon:
"She was the fruit of the search for psionic potential in the human gene, and surely, that meant her mother had succeeded! She was a genetically psionic wunderkind!"
What the fuck do you care if mummy's eugenics project worked out? She's all tied up about a FATEFUL DESTINY and being SPECIAL, yeah ok Link sure. Got a divine bloodline in there to go with it? What a weird turn, and I liked Selene.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler maryam!
yeah maryam teaching shalikova about psionics is so good, i love them so much. makes sense that her moral compass is a little fucked up given what we now know about her backstory. it's so good that shalikova is like "this sounds really nice, and it's not NOTHING but it isn't going to just magically fix things," because so much of the stuff unjust depths pulls from (not just gundam, but that's what i'm mainly thinking of here) just takes maryam's stated ideology at face value
selene is the kind of person who chosen one narratives are catnip for. she's looking for something to make her special, you know? she's constantly having power fantasies. in our world she'd probably be really into young adult novels or naroukei anime (naroukei being anime (and light novels and manga) about being the super special guy who's the only one who can do the special thing and has a harem of women who are often his slaves) and so she fixates on her mysterious parents as a source for this fantasy. that's my read of her anyways
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler CUDDLEFISH GANG
I guess those are funny lil brainworms that she and Shalikova are gonna work through together in the future? Ooooh I can't wait to see Shalikova radicalise her!!! Comrade Cuttlefish! I appreciate the Gundam intertext, stuff like that tells me that knowing various Gundams would enhance Unjust Depths a lot and add to my appreciation of it. It's a great moment; Shalikova's constant struggle to not yammer and put her foot in her mouth is something I vibe with, really respected her for not instantly being like "Deeply Unserious!" lol
I did not know the term "naroukei" anime/manga/etc before right now, I'm gonna use it to bully anime =) I get that being vat-grown and then raised in the Sunlight Foundation would mess a person up, but I was expecting "deep personal trauma" rathet than "I AM THE PROTAGONIST MUAHAHAHA" I get the sense that she has lost depth, which sucks :/ Norn and Adelheid's poor adoptive doctor truly just wants to be Kirito-kun...
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler comrade cuddlefish!
you'll get like 90% of the gundam intertext from the gundam watchlist i gave you, and the rest is stuff that only comes up when i go "wow unjust depths is kind of doing this bit from [bad gundam show] but it's better and knows what the fuck its talking about, so not worth watching the necessary series to understand the intertext
she's just like me fr! listen you don't call someone "deeply unserious" when you're trying to hit
to be more specific naroukei refers to stories posted online on the website shousetsuka ni narou, which is pretty much like royal road if you've ever browsed that site. a noteworthy feature of narou is that iirc there isn't any summary field, which is why all the novels there have titles that are 3 sentences long. a few web novels posted there got light novels then got really successful anime, and naroukei stories and stories like them have come to completely dominate the modern anime industry. though obviously not all of them are bad there's so many and even the good ones are tainted by association with the bad. things are pretty bad in the anime industry for way more reasons than that but that's a big part
hm, i don't think those are incompatable. she's still got trauma that drives her, it's just that part of what it drives her to is being annoying about wanting to be the main character of reality
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Revolutionary Cephalopod
I'm only like 11 episodes into 0079 so I'll prolly finish Depths before I even start a second Gundam :) I see though, I understand. I just feel like I'm getting ✨ context ✨ for Depths from it y'know!!
I know, but Shalikova was so close, I respect her restraint I'm a cuttlefish fan now lol
Lmao I had to look up royal road... Glad to know why there are longass light novel titles though! I know of the naroukei stuff but this backstory is new to me. Did fuckin SAO come from there? Those type of fuckin isekai make you long for mid-00s shonen though, shame about what's happened to anime lol.
That's so weird to me though, like wtf?? Norn goes "Yeah so your mum was a weirdo eugenecist for the Sunlight Foundation, she was weird about the genetic roots of psionics & that's you" and Selene goes "YIPPEE! I'M THE (assumed) CULMINATION OF PSIONIC SUPREMACY RESEARCH!!" I cannot fathom her motivations or feelings.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler revolutionary girl maryam
you're getting through 0079 pretty quick! you're a quarter of the way through and already hit the first big turning point
nah, sao was written in 2002 so it predates narou. but that's basically the vibe, yeah
that's fair. it doesn't bug me, but i do see it
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Ooooh 0079 posting ooooh
Haha I guess, I laughed my ass off when Char says "BLAME THIS ON THE MISFORTUNE OF YOUR BIRTH..." lmao what a vicious man, chad move, love to see it.
Oh that's double cursed, to think of how long we've shared a world with SAO, sad :/
Shall see how her lil story goes, maybe somethin cool will happen...
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler 0079
blame this on the misfortune of your birth is a super famous line and for a good reason. it's a great moment, really defining to char as a character
if i'm remembering right the connection between sao and narou is twofold. the success of sao as a webnovel in 2002 was important in developing the culture of narou, and then a decade later the anime being hugely successful made the industry way more interested in adapting webnovels like sao and turned to narou
she definitely has cool stuff coming up! basically no characters who that isn't true for
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
takes big swig of fuckitol fuck this. tomorrow morning i'm going to planned parenthood and asking about HRT in person
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
shaved my chest, shaved my back, epilated almost all of my legs and feet, been shaving my face far more regularly. oh god it's really happening i'm transing my gender. i'm honestly running out of body hair to take off
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RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her] - 2.3yr
I just bought the at home laser hair removal thing
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Unjust Depths 8.8/8.9 talk
"In this single moment, Gertrude's dreams could crumble right in front of her. All of her work, suffering, all the begging and cheating and the corpses she climbed - for nothing."
Self Awareness Gertrude does not reflect on her actions. She truly does think in waves. The battle against the Antenora is just starting up for the Brigand crew, and I'm pretty hyped.
Meanwhile,
Right? She wished the little nagging voice in her head was more supportive.
MOOD, SONYA
I like seeing Shalikova being CO as well, her internal bitching about how much better Murati is at this has me like OMG GO SIT WITH HER ✨ I believe in her ability to do this sometime since Murati is a perfect bean and could not be more approachable if she tried. I find the icy dynamics between them fascinating though, it really seemed back at the 3rd Battle of Thassalid that Sonya outright hated Murati or smth
So here is your incredibly blursed thought for the day: They should kiss. Murati and Sonya would make kind of a fun pair... Not as much obvious chemistry as Ulyana/Aaliyah or indeed Sonya and Maryan, but the way so much of Sonya's mindshare is spent thinking jealously/in admiration about how much better of a CO and tactician Murati is... combined with that initial awkwardness, I'm seeing it already. Sonya, nervous and gay, using her reverence for Murati's battlefield acumen as a shield to hide her hopelessly gay crush. Murati is very hardheaded, but I can see her wanting to be soft on a squadmate, being taken a little with Sonya's obviously flustered demanour, and things blossoming a bit from there.
That could be a cute AU fic, I think. Writing a blursed T4T pairing for Unjust Depths cause there's not any so far? Even though it feels a bit dirty, I may or may not be willing to brutalise A) Karuniya and B) the fan-favourite cuttlefish narratively to make this happen.
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler blursed t4t
shalikova should just talk to her! murati would love the chance to share wisdom
hmm, i can see it! that'd definitely be a cute au! no need to brutalize maryam at least, you could just say she made her way onto a different ship. karuniya is a tougher nut to crack. it wouldn't really feel right if she just got killed or something, maybe her and murati's fight at the very start of the story goes worse and they break up? alternatively: both murati and shalikova have two hands! though i understand if the drama is part of the appeal
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Cursed considerations
YO SHE SHOULD That's what I love, it'll be great when they finally do talk, but also poor Shalikova, she must get there in her own time...
Oh, yeah I didn't mean literally brutalise lol, I meant more that while Maryan could easily still exist in this heavily cursed AU with her own arc and such, I don't think Karuniya would survive the separation process. I still must catch up, but her entire character currently orbits around everyone's favourite Husband Material, and literally the most evocative thought she's had was that bit about walking in on Murati fucking her roommate or whatever. She is nice but has not done anything yet :/ I never actually thought about having them break up in-universe but that's a good idea too... hmmmm...
I did consider doing humorous poly shenanigans, but uh I'm a monogamous nerd so I'd probably be less than equipped to write that :> easier to just AU it... Imma keep it 100 with u though, I'm actually more surprised that a massive polycule hasn't broken out on the Brigand. My goodreads marxist lady brought it up, but IRL if you put that many trans lesbians in one place, you'd need a chart like a spider web to disentangle all the poly drama right??? Maybe someday...
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler thonk-trans
hmm yeah that's fair. karuniya does get some more stuff in the future but yeah, she's definitely a more periphery character. imagine the argument going worse, it leads to things being really awkward on the brigand, murati is throwing herself into her job and trying to get closer to her fellow pilots and really fixating on trying to get closer to sonya because she thinks sonya doesn't like her as sonya pushes her away because she's flustered and admiring her? this could be great
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler BIG thonk-trans
I am looking forward to Karuniya getting more stuff also!! I do think it's fun that Murati has a stabke healthy relationship, Karu has just been kinda sidelined by everything else so far...
OH NOOOOO THAT IS REALLY GOOD I HAVE TO WRITE THIS DOWN AAAAAAAA MAYBE THIS WILL HAPPEN
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler sicko-trans
karuniya and murati are cute and stable and not much else rn, yeah
if it happens i NEED to read it this is rapidly getting very compelling to me
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler power-sicko
Okay I'm gonna catch up and then study a bunch before I even attempt this, but yeah me too. This started as a borderline showerthought when I was at work, but now I'm like "This is the secret best pairing that nobody considered!!! I must make it happen!!!"
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler :sicko-hyper:
i would ONE HUNDREND PERCENT love to read this. i just checked ao3 and there are 7 fics in the fandom so more would certainly be appreciated
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Unjust Depths , no spoilers just more goofin'
Shalikova is wedged into the diver sim cockpit behind Maryan to show her the controls ig, and it's a tight fit, and I'm like YOU SHOULD KISS THE BACK OF HER NECK... NOW!!!!
I'm actually kinda hoping that Maryan gets to pilot a Diver now, if only because it would be incredibly funny. She's so enamoured with the thing and it's charming. Plus, she'd probably make a kickass pilot when she's not all cuttled out =)
Much love to the failson on board the Brigand as well! He can't help that he was born fucked up! My man is literally doing a "NOBODY WILL DEBATE ME LEFTISTS ARE ALL VIOLENT" bit, basically turning into a corncob after Shalikova disregarded him. Watching him subsequently get his face pounded by that security lady's buttstock was deeply satisfying, sorry bucko but The Romanovs Deserved It
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Cromalin [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler goofing
they're cute! i would love to see maryam pilot a diver
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ashinadash [she/her] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler Foolin' with mech sims
Same, she really has just got better & better to me as she talks with Shalikova more. My cuttlefish support is now uncritical ❤
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Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her] - 2.3yr
oh my god why the fuck do i want to out myself to my parents. i haven't been emotionally vulnerable with them like this since i was like 15. they've never respected my emotions. my dad makes casually transphobic jokes all the time. i loved fantasizing about literally never outing myself to my parents and cutting them out of my life why do i keep crying at the idea of outing myself in the next week or so
they're trying to take me to europe on vacation for like 2 weeks. honestly i didn't want to go at first but trying to go through international airport security as a trans woman sounds nightmarish, i'd really rather just not. plus i keep reading too many stories about planes just fucking falling apart mid air to want to board one anytime soon
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Edie [it/its] - 2.3yr
::: spoiler writing is hard. Ranting
I have been questioning my gender (a lot more recently). And I felt it was like a puzzle, and I was slowly putting it together, and I could see the outline of what I think is an egg [of course I question if I am just hallucinating and it isn't an egg]. But I was coming to a halt, I had a problem, I was out of puzzle pieces. I didn't know... what to ask myself to figure it out. Of course the answer is just to go and get the puzzle pieces: TO READ. To understand gender better, who knew. Not me, not this :lib:.
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Weekly Trans Megathread for the Week of 4/1 to 4/7
I hope everyone had a great week! Hang out. Chat. Talk about what's going on. Have fun :3
Coworkers have starting teasing me about my hair because I've been growing it out. Say it looks like Gene Wilder's (it does). But, like, Gene Wilder is awesome?
Another coworker says I look like Timothy shalomet (I don't), and he sure is pretty. Do they just think I have a magical Wonka aura?
Anyway, I take this as evidence that my hair is reaching outside the bounds of Acceptable Male Gender Expression, so the enforcement is now taking place. That's good I guess.
One of them asked me if I ever want to be a woman, and I said sometimes.
I mean, some of these people have seen me off work with makeup, earrings, hair styled, and femme clothes, and they still don't get it lol. The cis really do be oblivious sometimes.
They just think I'm "fashionable" lmao
Damn someone just asked you that? Cis ppl be wildin.
Yeah she's weird >.>
Overall, she's sweet, though. Just kind of oblivious about queer stuff. Normal where I'm living
Mhm it's not a bad question on its own, just kinda wild, where I am cis ppl usually walk on eggshells and never acknowledge queer stuff lol
As a male presenting person it’s infuriating constantly hearing people tell me to cut my hair now that it’s beyond the acceptable male hair length. I think it’s gonna get so much worse when I get earrings :/
Who knows, once you get the earrings, things might click for them.
This morning, I got the biggest surprise phone call of my life so far. To my sheer shock and surprise, they moved my bottom surgery from next week to this week. I did not expect them to move it up this close to my surgical date. I was not prepped for this, but I'm all for it. LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Nice finally some good news!
oh my god
i was on a discord call with like 2 queer friends last night. Girl name, she/her pronouns. I had earlier used that one nicer shampoo/conditioner that I've been leaving around my shower for god knows how long so this time my hair looked really good? Mid length, "masculine" cut but something about the way my headphones acted as a headband almost made my hair look really nice? My friend even noticed and commented on how she loved my hair
I spent like half an hour just kind of zoning out of the call looking at myself on the screen and for the first time I actually... felt nice. Like, I actually liked what I saw, I was visibly happy with myself. I ended up taking 5 selfies on that call and for the first time in my life I did that because I actually wanted to
still cis tho
Preening on the screen view of a video call is such a good vibe.
Video calls can smooth things out and really make us look fem and pretty right? Blows my mind sometimes haha I should take more pictures
yeah, I actually ended up taking more photos of my computer screen than myself because that's where i looked nicer. big shoutout to discord for putting up the femme filter for me apparently
this is so real! I often see myself in work slack calls (where I'm boymoding), and am confused as to why that has to be where I look the most fem.
I am still boymoding too and honestly I'm just here to gaslight people who think they are noticing changes lmao. I see people give me the extra long stare at work when talking to me and the little question mark pop up over their head 😂
went away for the state enforced Christian holiday, interacted with a heap of people and felt constantly treated like a guy, I kept feeling like everyone was about to call me the name I stopped using five years ago, I started doing it in my head, and having dreams about it
good reminder to not go anywhere I guess. sorry for sadposting, i'm fine
Wanted to see if I could find some kind of support group for transfems in my city so I could maybe build some kind of social network for myself.
Despite my city frequently being in the top 10 most queer cities of my state, there were only 2 possible monthly meet-ups I could attend as a transfem. One was for only for trans people in their 20s which means I'd be out of the range within the next year, and the other was for all gender diverse individuals 18 or older.
Both of these left me with that dreaded feeling that comes with starting my transition later in life. Ngl I feel kinda alienated by how young these skew and I'm a bit wary. I might go anyway to the 20s group while I still can and I'll see about the other one. Hopefully at least one of these leads to something positive.
down with cis
Gettin cisphobic with it
This week I am practicing waving at people and saying hello, instead of nodding at people and saying hello, as a form of greeting at work. I am told nodding is a Dude Gesture, which must be a Command & Conquer reference else it's completely illogical.
What other secretly gendered gestures and shit do I still have after so long? Honestly this whole "gender" thing seems kinda fuckin stupid sometimes.
i spend a lot of time analyzing cis women's gender expression to figure out new cues i hadn't considered. i literally just stopped doing the nod like a year ago after transitioning for half a decade now
I'm only stopping after nine years :) I have too much autism to do analysis lol, to neurotypicals I probably read like some kind of genderfreak, which tbh is sort of rad. Random people at my bluecollar job will use "they" for me totally unprompted.
people would they/them me a whole bunch when i first integrated into this new group. i think cis people would rather short circuit than ask someone what they prefer
To be completely fair, I once had a guy in an elevator ask me "hey so are you a guy or a girl?" and I was so floored I couldn't even be snarky. Cis people SUCK at asking, lol.
I refuse to correct them until they get their shit together, Idk. They can wonder and be confused, fuck em. My gender is Fear Incarnate!
one time i had spent 2 hours in front of a guy explicitly talking about my gender and he still came up afterwards and asked the same question. i had the same reaction you did, fuck them. read the fucking manual
I wave and nod. Proof that I'm bigender
Woah... if someone does both, now I know...
WHAT no idea this was a thing I nod at everyone.
Why do social conventions have to be so confusing, literally have to study people to interact in "appropriate" ways smh
I fuckin know right, I only found out recently. I just interact "inappropriately" all the dang time, cause fuck em =)
Ladies, is it masculine to rapidly move your head in a vertical range of motion, signifying affirmation and recognition of others?
Clearly
I've been trying to force myself to stop the nod and failing. I really need to stop meeting people's eyes while i'm walking.
Actually I realised today too, one of the reasons I'm such a Nodder is that it's a good excuse to look away from someone very fast
Whereas if I wave at someone and say hello, uh where do my eyes go shit uhhh
they say going on e is going to make you cry a bunch and honestly that sounds really nice i need some hormone assisted crying rn
Prog is what turned on the water works for me, but it is really nice to have a good cry and then feel a little bit better afterwards.
It’s so wonderful ngl. The change in feeling emotion is like night and day. I still refer to my old self as being an emotional brick. Nowadays, I feel a full gamut of emotions. It’s commonly said, but it rings true. It’s like when someone puts glasses on for the first time. The world is a much more beautiful place than it was before.
I remember back in high school i was pretty easily able to be crying but I guess even testosterone puberty can do that shit to you. It still feels weird to admit to yourself "Damn I wish I could cry more" though
I'm still waiting for this. Idk if i need to ask to up my dosage or what but i'll see after my new baseline from injections. Everytime I feel a cry coming on I get a rush of euphoria like "Yes finally this is so affirming", but then i lose the cry and paradoxically it makes me sad.
You're late motherfucker!!!
Sorry late loving Skeletor this time.
i shaved my sideburns
no more plausible deniability, I wanna try female hormonal chemistry
More and more people are saying this!
are sideburns masc? I've been debating shaving mine but my gf said they're neutral.
This is poetry & I want it framed on my wall.
if brevity is the soul of wit then this autistic transfemme got to be the dumbest girl on earth. i literally cannot stop posting/talking
Relatable mood!!!
It’s official. I’m currently in the waiting room of the hospital waiting to be taken back for my bottom surgery. I am out of my mind happy and nervous at the same time. Nice things like this aren’t supposed to happen to me. And yet here we are. It feels like a dream ;w;
Good luck
Good luck!
Omg! Good luck
good luck!!!!
duct taping an epilator to the wall so i can do my back like a bear scratching themselves on a fucking tree
Experiencing high anxiety that coincides with estrogen peaks :/ maybe I just need to adjust my dose. Ofc there's a small part of me that is quite scared that I wasn't "meant" for estrogen and I was all wrong about being trans. (Sorry i have been anxious about this for the last while on here :/)Then I have moments where I see old pictures of me as a guy and I'm like who tf is that that looks TERRIBLE and I absolutely never want to be him again. It's so confusign
Is the anxiety the only thing that makes you think you weren't "meant" for estrogen? Cause if so, nah :)
Yeah other than the general intrusive thoughts of like... what If I just tricked myself lmao but then why would I love how pretty I look
You're doin' good I'm pretty sure :) also tons of people who are "for" estrogen have issues around it, like cis women lol
Lol yeah exactly I'm just being super neurotic about this which is a common issue for me in general lol... ADHD brain -.-
Hey I’ve dealt with this before. It eventually went away, but I can only assume it was caused by external factors. I wouldn’t put too much stock into it.
It was yes
Estrogen peaks are known to cause some mood instability so that may be contributing to it in itself
Update: I’m officially in recovery at the hospital. Everything went extremely well. Took way less time than I expected. I just didn’t update sooner cause I was so doped up on pain meds that everything I said would trail off into nonsense.
Awesome glad everything is okay!!! 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
FIRST AWW YEAH, the fruits of getting up at 7am for work.
Great week, superb posting, thanks again for having me ❤
Always love when I wake up and see there's 20+ new comments in the trans mega
IT'S POPPIN' OFF
Ayo @SnowySkyes@hexbear.net real? I'd only seen a couple scuffed comments on some of the "woke booba" posts, dang. We hate to see it.
There’s been a few that I’ve been able to sus out and had to report most of them. Fortunately they’ve all been removed. Some are “ironic” misogyny which isn’t funny, others are just misogyny, which is less funny. Specifically that one dating post was a minefield. The first thing I saw was the op pissing on polyam folks. That pissed me off. But there were a few in there that had me wanting to retch.
That dating post killed me, soon as I saw "cishet man zone" I was like oh boy... Glad now that I skipped it after reading the OP. Did you know that polyam people ackshually have it easy & are eating the dating market alive?????
That shit pissed me off so much. It was just a toxic, thoughtless thread of poison that I’m surprised didn’t get wholly removed. The one post that really bothered me was some dude saying that western women were broken. That really just screams to me sexpat and misogynist. Piece of garbage.
I had noticed an uptick in dudes making dating posts, but I hadn't paid very close attention cause I was like Eh, let em vent in the general mega I guess? But sometimes it did seem a bit yikes, and if it's gonna lead to things like that thread...
It should be reigned in in some way in my eyes, but I am not a site admin so I have no power over that. Like, I don’t mind dating posts, but these folks gotta stop getting weird over it.
dang i saw it and went "not for me" but if it was that bad you should probably start reporting that stuff. really gross!
Cab driver guy gendered me and my wife as "girls". This usually wouldn't be that notable, except that My Brother In Christ, I was wearing my work uniform, unkempt and worse than zero effort, not even trying voicewise.
Was cab driver guy doing a bit, or is this the definition of winning? I know it's kinda brainwormed to be suspicious when people gender you correctly, but I tend to expect that my voice will out me most days, but uh it hasnt happened. I feel both extremely satisfied and somewhat confused. Actually I can't even remember the last time I got gendered wrong, gotta be more than a year ago by now. I'm the scary gender-apathetic dyke I always wished to be...
youre winning
one time when i was at like 2 years hrt i started passing even with a very lazily shaved depression beard. it almost felt like everyone had extremely bad eyesight or were in on a conspiracy to be nice to me, sometimes
But it turns out you were just winning
we're all winning now
The realisations I've had over the last few weeks that I actually pass is giving me a dangerous amount of confidence
Haiii, how is everyone today, hopefully good!!! Anyways I wish you all to have a great week this week!!! Much love!!! 😘😘😘🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🥰🥰🥰
I got a call back this morning from the Patient Advocate revolving around that mess from last week.
::: spoiler CW: Transphobia/Talk about bottom surgery
Original Post
They called me this morning and told me that they themselves had no real power. They then told me that they would refer the case to the doctor’s supervisor at the clinic I went to for further review. Just a few minutes ago, I received a call from his supervisor. Surprisingly, it was also my general practitioner. He told me that it was unacceptable and told me that it was likely that he was using dictation software. However, considering the frequency and certain ordering of things in the document that it was unlikely it was on accident. He asked if I wanted a call back after he spoke to him tomorrow and I agreed. I’m hoping action is taken, but it’s unlikely.
I honestly wish this whole thing would just go away now. I hate thinking about it. I hate everything about it and it’s poisoning the happiness I should be feeling right now for my bottom surgery next week. This document was going to be kept for a keepsake because it was the final hurdle to get to the surgery aside from just walking into the hospital.
I feel like shit and just want to cry over it. I just wish there were more I could do. But I don’t think I have any protections in this state. I just wish it never happened already. Why do people have to be like this? :::
hey how come no one told me that realizing you're trans makes the dysphoria way worse? my new words i can use only have exacerbated my discomfort
You know how when you first become a leftist & read the Manifesto, you see what's wrong with everything all at once and it kind of overwhelms your brain?
It’s just one of those things you would never realize. Cause all that pain you felt in the past was just background noise. Now that you have words for it, and now that you know what it is, it has taken form and you can see it for what it is. It’s not fun, but persisting is imperative.
on the one hand, it's been hard enough for the last fuck knows how many years, can I really keep going when it feels worse like this?
on the other hand, I was already prepared to just suck up the dysphoria for the rest of my life. The end is in sight now
Let me just say one thing as a woman that is 20 months into transitioning. It gets better. I promise. The pain comes and goes, but the girl stays forever.
oh god i don't even know how i'm going to manage the second puberty emotions, i'm already having trouble dealing with the ones i have now
::: spoiler volcel criminal shit right here the thought of "oh my god you can have a girl ass" crossed through my mind at work yesterday and i felt like i needed to lay down holy fuck
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::: spoiler I'm goin' to volcel jail with ya I think "having a girl ass" is a deeply underrated aspect of HRT. Cisgender gymrats work themselves half to drath trying to obtain the flawless shape I got from the girljuice.
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::: spoiler from the next cell over at first i felt really bad/awkward for telling myself i want to feel sexy but like... no, there's nothing wrong with that at all. I should be able to look in the mirror and feel attractive, there's nothing at all perverted about that :::
::: spoiler In Volcel Jail~ Yeah :) Or if there is something perverted about it, it's the cool & good kind we uncritically support!! :::
::: spoiler spoiler yeah lmao. i keep having that one thought that says "what if it's just a fetish. which 1. no, it absolutely isn't and 2. if it was? point to the rule where it says it can't be :::
::: spoiler ネタバレ Damn you’re lucky. I’ve had to put a ton of effort into getting an ass that’s just barely starting to come in. The HRT hasn’t done anything for me in that regard. :::
An old jacket of mine I really liked doesn't fit anymore and it's got me feeling some kind of way. I can wear it, but when it's zipped I can't breathe lol
edit: oh i think these are OCs come to think of it. fuck. i guess this is a thing i have now
Keep resisting them and let them fight for your attention
Found an informed consent clinic that is "near" me but takes video calls so I don't have to wait months for care hopefully. Just keep getting too anxious to call them to make an appointment
All of the yeses and maybes on gender diverse survey is really uplifting. I love reading about everyone’s personal experiences with their gender.

This is the most pro-trans website out there that isn't explicitly a trans community.
But also, big respect to the cis people in that thread who are like "yeah I've thought a lot about my gender and I'm definitely cis."
Even our cissies are more cis than the average person.
I think this is also the most pro-trans website out there that is a trans community?
Also WE LOVE OUR CISSIES DONT WE FOLKS
I keep doing gender affirmation for myself in the absolute dumbest possible way by just saying the normal, gender neutral shit I'm doing is actually girl stuff and super femme. Frozen pizzas for dinner is femme now. The worst part about this is that it actually sort of works
That's the best part wdym? Can confirm frozen pizza is femme, a classic really.
I’m in such an immense amount of pain today. My cycle decided to start today of all days and it’s causing muscles that were just cut through to cramp up on me, which is so intensely painful that I’m just trying to stay asleep at all times at this point.
I hope it passes quickly
I woke up at 4 AM from a nightmare that a shadowy organization had broken into my house and confiscated all my estrogen vials and it took me several minutes to realize it was just a dream
::: spoiler Discussion of slur reclaimation, I try to avoid reproducing slurs but I gotta here and there so CW slurs, 4ch discussion
Something I had kind of memoryholed until just recently is that the kids, broadly speaking I guess under-20s, are trying to take back the t-slur! I have seen it in a Black Dresses server (surely the most apt place for this to happen) and also on tumblr generally. I'm pretty sure people do it irl too.
This isn't new for the trans community, ofc; if you read the ultraclassic Gender Outlaw(Bornstein), or indeed Trans Liberation(Feinberg), you can catch people identifying by "he-she", "f*ggot", "transvestite" and many other quaint slurs, and generally I think I support the motion to reclaim the t-slur. It seems like /pol/ and the gang have had to move onto the etymologically poor, far less effective "tr**n" as a substitute, slur downgrade, which is what we wanna see.
I have permanent brainrot though, like some of those /lgbt/ brainworms might never come out. I've tried using it for myself and such once or twice, but it's just burned into my brain as a 4chan thing, and all I can remember is getting bullied by tripcodes and called AGP and stuff on /mtfg/. Classic.
It feels kind of lame, because I like "dyke" and "queer" for myself, and while I wouldn't use "f*ggot" for myself, it doesn't touch any nerves. But that stupid blue board ruined my mind, and I'll forever be unable to get with it, I guess.
Uh thoughts if you have em? Idk how old or young the average age skews here =) Curious for other people's takes on this specific instance of slur reclaimation. :::
::: spoiler spoiler Idk. I fucming hate the t-slur and the f-slur. Like, I have friends taking it back, and whatever. But it always makes my skin crawl no matter who says it. I get it in theory though but I just can't engage with that :::
::: spoiler spoiler At least I'm not alone, I suppose, can't-engage solidarity. :::
::: spoiler ネタバレ I honestly have zero desire to try and reclaim. It would honestly take an immense amount of effort. It would also require being capable of gathering a significant amount of folks that are okay with being called such words. I, personally, think they should be lost to the sands of time and not rehabbed. They are despicable words with despicable histories. We should just find new words. :::
::: spoiler Replacing the spoiler tag word is fun
I see! I'm curious to know, do you feel this way about every single slur that's ever been or tried to be reclaimed? I find it hard to argue against your view as well, though, honestly. :::
::: spoiler ネタバレ
I don’t know about any reclaimed slurs. I simply don’t. But as it is, a lot of slurs nowadays are fairly prevalent in highly public spaces. For many, it does and will still cause pretty significant trauma. I don’t really believe reclaiming slurs like t-girl or equivalents is really worth doing for this purpose. Why cause a lot of people mental harm simply because you want to use a word? It’s simply nonsense to me. :::
::: spoiler ネタバレ The hope is to take the bite away from it, remove its power and deprive queerphobes of a shitty thing to call us. Again I find it hard to disagree with you though. Much to think abt... :::
::: spoiler slurs i don't like, regularly call myself the big t-slur, but i will for effect or if i think it's the only word that works in the situation. like when i had to explain the concept of reclaiming slurs to my mom or if i need to emphasize transphobia in a discussion. sometimes i'm with friends who are much bigger on reclaiming it and i can get into the mood then. i definitely don't think this is exclusively under-20 thing, most of the people i follow on tumblr doing this are at least that old (as am i) but it seems to skew young. i am also pro-reclaimation, but i totally get not feeling good about using it or hearing it. :::
::: spoiler My favourite!! I see, it def works for effect lol. Gotta be in "the mood" to use it... Also wow, you explained this concept to your mom? Wild, that's rad.
The fact that I thought it was mostly under-20s shows that I don't go outside enough :) Makes sense it skees younger though, older generations have a higher chance of feeling weird-bad things about it ✨ Maybe I'll get over the brainworms someday... Fwiw I can tolerate hearing it fine enough, exposure kinda gelps with that too, but saying it, Idk ever. :::
i feel like i'm going to get banned from the trans mega if i post too much so i only post like 15% of the stuff that i want to. still fun though :)
Post however you wish imo. Activity is always welcome in my eyes. Plus it’s always fun to see a babby trans work through their feelings. It’s stuff that almost all of us went through at some point.
alright but i'm screenshotting this comment and pulling it up again when next week's trans megathread has 500 comments and half of them are mine
Me checking the megathread at 6am the day it goes up and calculating that the comments are 45% me by volume
I’ve been had!
24 hour surveillance of our local pet rabbit's brainwaves
oh wait that's me. i can't believe i forgot about the fact i've been using big chungus in my username for the past... 3 years
I feel this way too (I am a loud poster) but when are you not supposed to POST HARD on bear website?? The people here are very nice.
spam me. im ready
Saw a new doctor today for my hrt - I have plenty of meds but really just want my blood tests covered by insurance. It's always been really nerve-wracking talking about DIY with doctors ever since I had some bad experiences with my first few, but this doctor was just respectfully curious, wanted to know where it came from. Seems the mood towards DIY has changed since the 2000s. Or maybe it's just because I've been on it so long. Either way, It's nice.
::: spoiler No Unjust Depths spoilers just gay mushy garbage ❤
Chin up, Captain Ulyana!! Let the far-flung goal of Aaliyah ear-scritches be your motivating force!! You can save this fumble!!! Uncritical support!!!!
Tbh the idea that Ulyana has like no experience actually being in a deep relationship is just,
let your "irrational girlish longing" flow, captain. Ugh I adore her, she can do it.
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::: spoiler my god these bitches gay i love them so much. ulyana is so good, aaliyah is so good, they're great together. i'm rooting for them! :::
::: spoiler Good for them! I can't wait for everyone to do the "awwwwh mom and dad finally made up!" when they finally do kiss, also who's the dad I wonder...
I demand more Aaliyah time though, every second she is onscreen is wonderful. My #1 favourite cat! :::
::: spoiler sonic speech bubble it feels like they'd try and keep it private, right? don't want to distract from the mission. they might not even start going out until it's done, gotta keep things professional
whenever aaliyah isn't on screen the other characters should be asking "where's aaliyah?" :::
::: spoiler lol I mean they would and they do, but they're such painfully obvious lil homos, like no way is Fatima or Semonyova (or Genivov or de la Rosa, probably) not turned around watching them when they don't notice y'know? The bridge crew will know and it'll be cute :3
THEY SHOULD, and sometimes I wonder what a commissar gets up to when she's not advising the captain. Does she cart around copies of theory to people?? IIRC a commissar's job is to keep the military accountable to the people, which feels funny on a black-ops mission. I know she does her little logbook... :::
::: spoiler catgirl commissar that's true
we get some really good aaliyah stuff later. a commissar is like, supposed to make sure the ship isn't doing counterrevolutionary stuff i guess, but not too much to worry about rn except maybe marina. elena definitely has problems but isn't going to try anything, you know? :::
::: spoiler Comrade Commissar Catgirl!!! I can't wait to get more really good Aaliyah :) thankful that my fav cat can just chill out and vibe for now. :::
::: spoiler all purpose cultural catgirl aaliyah yeah she's so good, she's enjoying herself with ulyana :::
my coworker called me "sweet angel" today. I don't think she really meant anything by it but oh wow uhhhh...
can you say that 5 more times?
Really wanna hear the Ballroom Blitz in the club again
I usually inject once every.5 days but today is day 6 and I still haven't done it... I'm feeling quite weird and kinda raw and depressed. Is this expected or just me? Anyone else have any experience?
When I was on valerate I would often have a pretty down mood the on needle day/the day before. Hasn't been an issue since moving to enanthate though, which I assume is because longer halflife on the same 7 day cycle = stable levels.
is there like a single reddit post or brief guide out there on how to do trans femme shit? i don't want to bumble around asking the same question that's been asked 100,000 times before like "where the fuck do i get estrogen?" and "there an informed consent clinic nearby, do i just call them ask for an appointment or what?"
i honestly just prefer reading stuff rather than watching youtube tutorials but really i just want to know how to ask that informed consent clinic for E. god i'm fucking sick of this cisgender shit.
I think you do just call them to set up an appointment. Ring them and be like "Hi, I am looking to talk to a physician about getting prescribed hormone replacement therapy, because I want this summer to be a Hot Girl Summer for me"! Very exciting.
maybe something slightly less bubbly and more serious, but yeah. i get nasty phone anxiety just trying to do something like order a pizza from a pizza place, let alone asking for estrogen
then again, if you call a pizza place, what else but pizza would you be asking for? same rule goes for HRT i guess
here's hoping the wait list is under 2 months
YEAH
Phone anxiety sucks, kept me from hormones for a good while, but uh it's worth it lol.
if you need me to pull it all up for you, i can dm you my matrix and infodump you on literally everything youd ever need to know. incl resources state by state and so on
noted. might do that later tonight or maybe tomorrow :)
I was getting a factory warranty for my car registered and I had to give my legal name w/ driver's license --I haven't gotten that shit changed yet -- but my voice training must have paid off because person on the phone just carried on calling me ma'am for the rest of the call. ☺️
Got an massive wave of dysphoria at work today because of the boymoding. Started to question why I fucking do this to myself. I'm lucky enough to be in a place where it wouldn't cause problems for me if people knew that I'm trans, the only reason I boymode is because it would be a little bit scary not to. It's really not worth feeling like shit just to avoid that. I'm done with this and I'm just gonna show up fem next week.
You can do it, it's gonna be rad
Thanks! It's gonna be great to present a way I feel comfortable
It's not that big leap of a leap at this point. I've been dressing androgynous, often gender-neutral, but occasionally leaning pretty fem, for the last couple months there, and usually get gendered correctly by visitors, so I don't think anyone is gonna react in any major way to me taking the extra step.
Part of why I felt dysphoric today was probably because my outfit was way too masc-leaning rather than gender neutral, but that still seems like a good sign that ending the half-measures and just being myself is gonna be good for me at this point.
No more half-measures
I still live with my family who are in that gray area of "we aren't going to actively be transphobic but we also aren't going to make any efforts to try to gender you correctly or show support to you" and my mom expressed some disapproval with trans/queer stuff in the past and I worry that if I start taking T it would be a step too far in her eyes. But maybe I should just bite the bullet and start looking for informed consent HRT near me because I don't know how much longer I can take this and also the changes might not be the most noticeable to start with.
My loneliness exacerbates my (many) mental illnesses and my mental illnesses exacerbate my loneliness... and the lack of HRT isn't helping.
Wearing my new sneakers around the house because they're so gender affirming
HRT question: I understand that smokers aren't supposed to take estradiol as pills due to the risk of blood clots. Is this true for all types of smoking or only nicotine? Wondering if it's safe for me to smoke weed.
all types of nicotine, including patches, i believe there is also some correlation with various additives in cigarettes like arsenic as well. weed should be fine if its just weed.
in general you should avoid nicotine at all costs as a trans woman, it also inhibits E
Awesome, good to know
so today at work was fun. i was nauseously dysphoric all day and felt like i wanted to throw up for a whole 8 hours
. i have absolutely no words for this. even now i still feel off and gross. getting called "sir" or the name that's on my name tag has never hurt like this. for the first two hours today i wanted to cry. I haven't changed any (visible) physical thing about my presentation but it just hurts more now? what the fuck???
at the very least, i have many years experience of sucking down a ton of difficult emotions and powering through a day of school/work anyway, so at least i was prepared
Anyone have any good resources on/about trans people who don't realize it until later(ish) in life (18+)? I keep having this nagging feeling about not liking being a guy (this has been happening for months now) but my childhood was very cis and every time I hear trans people talk about when they "knew" they were like 7. I don't know exactly what I feel like I should be either.
Anyway, might be nothing, but still would be interesting to hear/read about it.
a lot of people don't figure themselves out until adulthood. you definitely aren't alone, i'd guess the majority of trans folks are in that same boat. the problem is that until fairly recently if you didn't say "i knew when i was 4 that i was a girl" you probably wouldn't be able to transition 'legitimately' so that's what people have in their heads. "if i didn't know when i was young it doesn't count," and obviously that's bullshit but it sticks with you
yeah AMA. describes me pretty well
I guess my big two questions are how did you realize you were trans, and what did it feel like (at first)?
I'll be blunt, it only came to me about a month ago, and I am still really going through the emotions right now.
In a weird sense, it sort of did come at one big moment when it really did click, but like, for the two-three months prior, i spent a ton of time really working on myself and trying to get at the root of why I felt so bad all the time. At first it was the obvious things, stop drinking so goddamn much and start going to the gym instead, trying really addressing what kind of emotions and trauma came from the alienation of growing up with the unremovable "kid from the special ed class" label. And I really did start working through my problems instead of burying them, but as I started really starting to address shit, all of the emotions that I just labeled as "child trauma, probably" really did start to not really add up. There was a missing ingredient that I couldn't just explain away by being bullied for being a weird kid when I was 9.
As I kept internally searching I kept feeling more and more... shook with myself, until finally one day it just... snapped into place. These emotions I'm feeling is dysphoria caused by me not liking my gender expression, and I can get rid of them by transing my gender
The day after I was visibly shook all fucking day. The closer I got to the egg cracking, the worse I was feeling, and when it cracked was when the floodgates really poured open. Those emotions, once finally reckoned with, all started to make sense
After going through the inventory of all of my past trauma, experiences, and emotions over the course of 3 months with a cis lense, I've started to do it again with a trans one, and it... really is explaining a lot more. I really was a lot more eggy than I admitted to myself
I have countless paragraphs more to say but my 10 minute break is up and I can only type so damn much on my phone. I can explain more later if you like
Thank you for sharing your experience with me, that is very helpful.
dm me any time, i can give you a 20 page essay if you want :)
i only knew i was trans since puberty, not since i was a kid. its not uncommon for people to learn much later, as you transition oftentimes you begin to remember odd little moments as time goes on from your youth, though
yeah i am constantly remembering shit i did when i was a kid and going "oh, that was dysphoria"
Things continue to get better and better between my partner and myself. ::: spoiler boring relationship stuff I'm starting to get over my fears of talking about my transition with my partner, and we've been having some of the best conversations of our 10 year relationship. He keeps reiterating how much he loves me and that he's not leaving. Which are things I desperately needed to hear. I've stopped presenting as male at home pretty much all the time now. He's also started to gender me differently at home which has been incredible. He referred to me and my dog as ladies last night and I nearly died.
He's also expressed his fears. Which are the same fears I have. Societal backlash, family issues, friends, employment. We live in a safe neighborhood in a safe city, but we are surrounded by an ocean of reactionaries. But I legitimately feel like we can overcome anything together.
In other semi-related news, my therapist diagnosed me with OCD on Tuesday. Which isn't surprising really. I have some powerful compulsions that are driven by an extreme fear of rejection. I'm pretty sure most of my internalized transphobia comes from those same fears of rejection. I know for a fact that my complete inability to talk about this stuff with my partner is driven by those fears.
All in all it's been an interesting week. ::: .
Love to hear it, glad your partner is a chill dude
Sounds like you're in a pretty good spot honestly, happy for you.
I keep getting struck by "holy shit how did i not realize sooner" followed by "honestly i'm shocked it didn't take longer to realize" and both sides have some good points
::: spoiler CW: internet transphobia and bad feelings
Hate seeing "AFAB vs AMAB" essentialism and "transfems are like this" bullshit even on lefty places like here. I'm probably just being oversensitive and should delete all social media but youtube animal facts. I feel like I can't trust anywhere on the internet to accept trans people. :::
They just made it the new gender binary to do essentialism with again
Did something shitty happen on bear website that I (thankfully) missed?
Who do I need to fight?
uninformed consent clinic where they tell you what HRT will do to you only through very cryptic poetry in a centuries dead language
me 2 months ago:
<--- full of sad
me now:
<--- full of fun t girl music
like lmao it really took 20+ fuckin years to figure this puzzle out
Share ur fun t girl music pls? I only have Black Dresses and G.L.O.S.S.!
my friend made me a spotify playlist for me. haven't listened through all of it yet but instead i've been listening to the wallsockets album by underscores
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Uhhhhh, trans vibes albums
Black Dresses - Forever in Your Heart
Ada Rook - Ugly Death No Redemption Angel Curse I Love You
Weatherday - Come In
Solom - We Used To Be Cringe On the Internet, Now We're Just F******
Obligatory Against Me - Shape Shift With Me
Backxwash - Deviancy
Left at London - t.i.a.p.f.y.h.
NOOOOOO UR NOT A LIB
Hey that Wallsockets fucks really hard, that's kind of a Solom type beat, I love that. Thank you for my new brainworm
been enjoying Johnny Johnny Johnny too damn much for the subject matter. It does go hard though
THAT SHIT FUCKS
Hey I went and really listened to this one again today!
Wish I didn't know this fucking vibe, why is it like this huh?
Goddamn fuckin right, transbian music is praxis
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So much great punk music comes from transfems so I have a few.
We are the Union — Morbid Obsessions (fun ska punk)
Tears for the Dying — Epitaph (deathrock)
Physique — Again (crustpunk/dbeat, band in part made of some of the former members of G.L.O.S.S.)
Crisis Party — We Are the Party (punk with a bit of a post-punk edge)
She/her/hers — She/her/hers (bouncy melodic queercore)
The HIRS Collective — We're Still Here (powerviolence)
Administrative Leave — J Channell (dance punk)
voidulie — VOIDULIE (very short industrial/electropunk ep)
idk how genres work so if I mislabeled anything... you didn't see it
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Hi trans mega :)
::: spoiler Some 8.10/8.11 Unjust Depths discussion, mech battles n character things
Also the mech fights in this chapter? 11/10 no notes, Sieglinde getting battered by Khajida with two chainswords while receiving a vicious roasting had me like FUCKING GET ER KHAJIDA, SHOW THAT BITCH WHAT A UNION PILOT WITH SOMETHING TO FIGHT FOR CAN DO!!! Similarly, Sonya diving out of the way of the Option drone, baiting it to shoot the Jagdkaiser because Selene is a fucking idiot? When Sonya says I'm not a lab rat! I'm Sonya Shalikova! You think this is fun? Are you enjoying yourself?, uncritical support to Sonya in her pitched battle to murder Selene. There is an interesting footnote tho:
I thought Sonya just had really strong latent powers that stopped Maryan from reading her, but... is the implication here that Sonya is invisible to psionic vision cause shes just that fuckin autistic that her emotions are unreadable?
It definitely feels subtextually like psionic autism. Lol.
In other news, and since it so rudely interrupted the climax of battle, (a classic shonen battle trope) oh god for fuck's sake, I didn't realise we'd be getting flashback scenes of sad egg vibes in this, oh it puts me in mind of James H in Nevada holy shit. Going home to his shitty apartment in Star City to try on a dress and smoke weed and be depressed, as Marina does. I am so fucking dismayed that the word transvestism survived from the surface world, oh fuckin man
Republic delenda est...
I do find it kind of funny that Marina has to shoulder all the internalised transphobia in this plot, because everyone else is too cool and rad. :::
::: spoiler psionic autism is the name of my new band baby sonya is so good! she's so excited to be a girl and be like zasha. i really like the characterization we get of zasha where she's clearly not 100% on board with the change but is really trying as hard as she can to not let sonya know. it IS crazy how good she is!
god yeah the khadija sieglinde fight is so good. sieglinde is so caught up in her own conception of herself, where she hates fighting and has given up any hope for the future even for herself, that she cannot imagine that anyone she views as a peer could have legitimate principles. i feel bad for her, she's incredibly pathetic
selene is pretty pathetic as well but in a very different way. i still like her because she sucks in a way i find compelling but she SUCKS. it rules seeing sonya kick her ass
baby egg marina is so sad. the republic is truly evil they are JUST america and this story understands how horrifying that is. the bit where they have cars for literally no reason and they make it so much worse to live there is like. damn, this story gets it
also it's so funny that all the gia agents have american president code names. america is always on its bullshit, even in the underwater postapocalypse
::: spoiler Sick bandname!! I absolutely demand the author quit tugging my heart strings like this, I'm not gonna last if these flashbacks to dorky kid versions of my favourite characters persist. Gets me every time ✨ I was very pleased to learn that Zasha does not deserve the wall tbh, the entire sequence is wonderful. Can we have more Zasha too actually?
Y'know, the Antenora is literally just a ship of fools huh? I think Norn and Adelheid are the only ones onboard who aren't total losers. Selene is a eugenics-pick-me, Gertrude is an empty-headed dork who puts "get GF" before any critical thought, Sieglinde projects her total lack of conviction & ideals onto her lifelong for and gets rekt for it(I was glued to the page). They're all clowns and I think I love it - Gertrude absolutely deserved that dressing-down Adelheid gave her, unexpected based Adelheid moment.
I still don't find Selene to be that compelling, like I don't want to be in her head unlike everybody else, but if her purpose was to get sandbagged by Sonya, job well done. The fight was superb, I could watch Sonya take a psionic supremacist down a peg any day. I was mad when the Marina flashback cut this fight off, I know someone is gonna save Sonya but I wanna see, pls let her be ok :/
Idk, sitting in your dark, shitty apartment in lacy undergarments and smoking your depression away, I mean it's kind of a vibe. It's such a vivid image and I've seen it a few times, I was nodding along. "Ah yes, relatable. Can't wait for her to be forcefemmed." My mood was kind of all over the place reading Marina's bit, there was that scene and then the "Piedmont must have thought he was a fucking queer" which made me snort, I love how crass and sweary Marina is. But then you meet Leda and it's like
That is not how I expected the " had a knife held to her cock" line to be paid off?? How should I feel???? I guess I expected the Leda/Marina/Bethany thing to be... okay well maybe not "wholesome" but not THAT, what the fuck. No adequate face, except kbity-how I guess. Consent, where are you now...
Lmao okay is it weird that I kind of hate the Republic more than the Empire? The Republic seems like a very serious hellhole, like maybe as bad as the slavery empire. In general I am dismayed that so much
has survived under the sea. The Union should liberate this place fr fr.
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::: spoiler ty never! next up is baby ulyana living under the empire and being radicalized into a revolutionary! yeah zasha isn't perfect but she's doing self crit and trying her best, and she clearly loves sonya so much. though i have bad news regarding what we already know about zasha
yeah lmao. hunter iii isn't a loser but that's because she's very no thoughts head empty all she wants to do is
grilleat raw meat! selene sucks but it's so fun to see her get wrecked by someone she sees as lesser. sieglinde's fight is better but that's not really saying much given how good it ismarina's whole thing is so good. the leda stuff is like. NOT what i expected and it's wild. and no i think it's very fair to hate the republic, they're INCREDIBLY evil. truly madiha gets it :::
::: spoiler yw! Oh nooooo that'll be sad vibes, I'll end up discovering why Yana is such a dork and fumbles cool cultural catgirls
Way better than Deshnov, I was worried every trans-sibling was gonna be a clown... I will say the Children's Halls are incredibly fascinating to me, that kids get raised with a degree of autonomy and all, I think I dig that.
Ah right I literally forgot about Hunter III I love her! Uncritical support to our hungry aphotic salamander!!! Her head-empty is very refreshing actually. Potomac was also not a loser even if the Sunlight org is pretty sus. All of the silly puppies onboard though, Yurii and Petra and also Ingrid, they're kinda losers too if pitiable =) Where is my dog girl communism, why so few? Idk though, I mean Khajida v Sieglinde is super killer, but Sonya v Selene that begins with failson getting rekt? Sonya thanking Maryan for her psionics? I adore that shit maybe just as much.
Yeah uh when she forcefemmes you at knifepoint?? I... guess that's something?
I keep hoping Marina is okay but she is so clearly not. The republic is also an empire >:3
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::: spoiler i love that cultural catgirl is catching on, though i never watched that show yeah i was referencing the children's halls when you got to that deshnov flashback. kids have options if they want independence! it's cool, i dig it
hmm. the mechanics of the selene fight are cooler, but the 20 year history between khadija and sieglinde is so good, realizing the true extent to which sieglinde had been wallowing in her misery over realizing that she was a tool for empire without seeing an alternative is just killer. but that's a good point, sonya thanking maryam is v good
yeah marina is very much not ok. the republic is exactly as much of an empire as the empire yeah
::: spoiler Idk the reference I just thought it was funny c: Ohhhhhh now I see =) Yeah that's really cool, fuck the Union is so rad all the time...
I love that both happen at once, excited to see Sonya kiss her cuttlefish when she gets back! Also though I just got to 8.13 and I'm like MURATI NO YOU SHOULDNT BE OUT HERE WTF, DONT BREAK YOUR FUCKING NECK YOU DUMB BITCH
STOP THAT, although also hey, maybe Karuniya can develop some character traits here? I do want to see her become her own person...
E: Oh a Karuniya flashback!
E2: Oh... a Karuniya flashback
Either way Marina is gonna need to get those brainworms out, she is doing the lib thing of going "weh capitalism bad evil empire" but still calling people "commies"... Marina Re-Education Camp
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::: spoiler the reference is all purpose cultural catgirl nukunuku which i THOUGHT was one of the anime airing on american tv that had the 9/11 sympathies message during broadcast but i misremembered, it was just on the same channel. (serial experiments lain neon genesis evangelion and sakura wars were the three)
and yeah i wish i lived in the union so fucking bad
yeah they both rule. this arc just has really good booking! and the karuniya murati duo mech is cool as hell
i like karuniya's flashback
i think it's cute and i like hearing her talk about ocean facts. but she's still pretty ancillary to murati, i do wish she got more on her own here
yeah marina is still a massive lib, regardless of how sympathetic she is :::
::: spoiler Unjust Depths, just talking about our protagonist
I wanted to write a lil appreciation of Murati Nakara because she is a wonderful bean.
When you first meet her in the intro to Unjust Depths she almost seems kind of silly. The only things she really has going on are her girlfriend Karuniya, (they seem to have an uncomplicated and wonderful relationship) her skill at diver piloting and her ambition in the military. To be honest, early on I had thought she didn't really have any flaws, but she takes a good while to unfurl and bloom as a character.
Murati is not among the several autistic lesbians in Depths, that I know of anyway, but her staunch hard-headedness is very appealing! Much later in the series she's talking to this scientist lady who knew her parents, the famous revolutionaries the Nakaras, and she is borderline affronted when science lady says "Yeah they did a lot of great shit but they were mostly just oceanographers lol, idealists really" and it's borderline adorable. I can really respect how strongly she feels about her Mordecist beliefs and sense of justice. When she first steps off the Brigand and into an Imperial city, her moment of utter shock at a capitalist hellhole that leaves its people destitute and homeless is superb for her. Murati might be a military-strategic galaxybrain and a steadfast revolutionary, but she's also somewhat green, and her single-minded commitment to justice can sometimes cause problems, like she bothers Captain Ulyana for money to try to house these homeless guys in the Empire, holding up a critical extraction mission.
What I really want from her is more flashbacks, though. Stepping back in time about fifteen years and finding out that not only has Murati always been like this, but she was equally loud and brash about matters of her gender is a wonderful thing. She went from "good" to "great" though when she gave her adoptive parent Deshnov shit about his goofy-ass "allowed you to go on tbose medications" spiel.
It's fairly uncommon to see trans kids in fiction, unless it's some kind of Young Adult, coming-of-age story I guess, likely because the vast majority of trans people now still transition in their 20s or 30s. I'm weird though, and so the idea that an indignant, righteously angry 12 year old Murati had to lash out against Deshnov (and probably everybody else Idk) to get her way and be who she is? Wow, she just like me, fr fr. That's something I can really relate to, and even just hinting at that kind of hardship for her has me deeply invested basically for free. I feel a great affection for the First Officer, the Brigand couldn't ask for a better Diver Leader and I'm always excited when she is onscreen. Murati, my beloved ❤ :::
::: spoiler murati my beloved! i had a whole thing written but fucked up and somehow deleted it orz
but yeah she's so good and the ways she develops and deepens as the story unfolds is tremendous. i could see an autistic read of her, special interest mordecaist theory and political structures. her naivety is so good, thinking about how it would be to live your whole life in a communist state and then be exposed to the horrors of capitalism for the first time is so well drawn
and that flashback is a standout moment in a story full of standout moments, i really love murati so much. her firm self knowledge from the very beginning makes so much sense
::: spoiler Transbian Commie Hours! Nooooo not the whole thing written up!!
She doesn't seem as firmly autistic as a Potomac or a Shalikova, but yeah special interest in theory ans structures, I dig it. I also thought it was profoundly goofy when her narration insisted that the state of the water and the animals was a secondary concern, like that's not very materialism of you :) Karuniya's gonna have to sort that one out, lmao. One of the things I truly adore about Depths is that its characters tend to gain complexity slowly as they move through their arcs, so I can always look forward to cool developments from them.
I envy Murati having never seen a capitalism
Must be rad...
I knoooooowwwww right??? Such a good underlining of her character, I literally adore her smh.
I think Ulyana's stupid bit might still be my favourite but they may be tied Idk!:::::: spoiler need more transbian commie rep in fiction yeah for sure. unjust depths has so much subtle character work in the narration, it's a really strong element. (my other big recent recommendation, otherside picnic, is way less subtle but it's so strong there as well. love how much characterization it fits into sorawo's narration and how dumb she is about feelings). and yeah murati certainly isn't done having new wrinkles added! one of my favorite things about her hasn't shown up where you are yet!
god i wish that were me
i think murati is like, 4th or 5th for me? can't say 2 of them because they're spoilers*, but i think ulyana and shalikova might be above her, but murati would be #1 in basically any other story. and there's a lot of really strong characters right behind her!
*one of them hasn't shown up yet and the other hasn't gotten most of the development that makes me love them so i don't want to mess with your expectations
::: spoiler Tbh I'm kind of surprised there aren't more... It is really good, pleasantly surprised. The line-to-line writing in general is a lot more than just serviceable. I may slam my head against Otherside again at some point, it was decent but I dunno what 2chan /x/ is like, and the uh "anime dialogue" sort of put me off, like I could just picture each scene as a slice-of-life scene in a manga with whacky facial expressions. I d k
Oh shit really? I'm so hyped for that, I'm very game for more new aspects to her ✨
Damn 4th or 5th, yeah I can't disagree though, I guess romancebrain means I'm weak for a good pairing but the Ulyana/Aaliyah and Shalikova/Maryan duos bring me a great deal of joy. I'm looking forward to even morr superb additions to the cast ✨ :::
::: spoiler it's an outrage is what it is yeah that's fair. i do think it gets a lot better as the series goes on. i understand "it starts a little shakey and very anime but by the 8th book it's one of my favorite stories of all time" is a bit of a hard sell though. but like, the way sorawo and toriko develop is really incredible and where they end up as of the latest book is one of my all time favorite relationships in anything
my favorite characters are all a little bit just like me fr, but there isn't that much of a common thread. mostly i just love whenever something nice happens with them, constantly cheering whenever we get a hangout chapter and my faves get to just chill with their gfs (or not yet gfs as the case may be)
::: spoiler This has 8.7/8.8 spoilies To be fair it wasn't even bad, so that's not a super hard sell. I should give it the entire runtime of the first book at least. I was genuinely curious to know what's up with these funny doors that have bootleg SCPs behind them! I desire scifi-horror-gayromance! The other contributing factor was, I have this thing that happens, every two months or so, if I do not read something that is Gay & Trans in nature, I will wither away and expire. So I got hit with one of those, and Unjust Depths was just sitting there looking all sumptuous and gay...
Whenever characters are actually truly all the way relatable ❤ Aside Selene there's not really a character I dislike yet, Sieglinde getting hit on by Yurii was peak comedy. "I do like women bigger than me", you literal horny dog!!!
ALSO aaaaaaaaaa the Antenora just showed up at the Gorge oh no whats gonna happen
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::: spoiler unjust depths yeah that's totally fair. i also need gay trans shit sometimes! slowburn scifi horror lesbians is great but communist transbian mecha is better
the only characters i don't like are the ones you are supposed to dislike, like failson or the first confirmed straight man. sieglinde is great!
::: spoiler Reflections on Unjust Depths 8.5/8.6 Ok I adore how Shalikova and Maryan have completely different circumstances and upbringings, but conditions bring them to similar experiences over which they can bond and grow closer. The colours are cool new psionic powers only to be shared between you, sunshiney cuttlefish, and your new autistic mech pilot gf.
I still find Maryan to be a deeply weird character, which I guess is what happens when you get vat-grown to be a navigator for a warlord, but I'm down with her motivations and find her endearing, her backstory seems neat c: She is a land of contrasts; she has this adorably idealistic speech about how she believes everyone can and should use psionics, all deeper-understandings-between-people stuff... but we're talking about sandwich-thieving, dream-influencing cuttlefish lady, lmao. She has interesting ideas.
I was laughing my ass off when Maryan was giving that speech and Shalikova was like "Yeah but u got no dialectical materialism fam, no peace while the bourgeoisie persist" shine on, Sonya Shalikova.
Meanwhile Norn is a character who's improved by leaps and bounds to my eye. I think her main issue is she's always got this mask and can't say anything without making it a Disney villain monologue or something, so she can seem kind of silly sometimes, but her little moments of kindness I find very admirable, she's sweet at times:
Like I wasn't expecting much from the Selene-Norn connection, but this is my favourite dysfunctional gay family.
Conversely though I gotta say, I sincerely do not understand Selene's wonderment at her parents existing. It would probably be deeply disquieting to have been made as a genetic weapon, as an experiment with intent to kill, sure; but that is what her parents did, basically, as she had already assumed. The only extra "context" it provides is that she's a genetic experiment made by some woman having an affair. I guess personally I've never been that concerned with the intent for or context of my existence, partly because I can't ascertain it. Sure, it'd be super weird if I found out tomorrow that I'm secretly a lab experiment or whatever, but that wouldn't change my existence on its own. Someone somewhere brought me into being; beyond that, it's mine to decide what to do with. It seems weird to me that Selene is so obsessed with the idea that two people vat-birthed her for a eugenics experiment, instead of the usual Katarran vat-birth for a specific job.
And then on top of that, the "context" that Selene is so obsessed with is apparently being a really good genetic superweapon:
What the fuck do you care if mummy's eugenics project worked out? She's all tied up about a FATEFUL DESTINY and being SPECIAL, yeah ok Link sure. Got a divine bloodline in there to go with it? What a weird turn, and I liked Selene. :::
::: spoiler maryam! yeah maryam teaching shalikova about psionics is so good, i love them so much. makes sense that her moral compass is a little fucked up given what we now know about her backstory. it's so good that shalikova is like "this sounds really nice, and it's not NOTHING but it isn't going to just magically fix things," because so much of the stuff unjust depths pulls from (not just gundam, but that's what i'm mainly thinking of here) just takes maryam's stated ideology at face value
selene is the kind of person who chosen one narratives are catnip for. she's looking for something to make her special, you know? she's constantly having power fantasies. in our world she'd probably be really into young adult novels or naroukei anime (naroukei being anime (and light novels and manga) about being the super special guy who's the only one who can do the special thing and has a harem of women who are often his slaves) and so she fixates on her mysterious parents as a source for this fantasy. that's my read of her anyways
::: spoiler CUDDLEFISH GANG I guess those are funny lil brainworms that she and Shalikova are gonna work through together in the future? Ooooh I can't wait to see Shalikova radicalise her!!! Comrade Cuttlefish!
I appreciate the Gundam intertext, stuff like that tells me that knowing various Gundams would enhance Unjust Depths a lot and add to my appreciation of it. It's a great moment; Shalikova's constant struggle to not yammer and put her foot in her mouth is something I vibe with, really respected her for not instantly being like "Deeply Unserious!" lol
I did not know the term "naroukei" anime/manga/etc before right now, I'm gonna use it to bully anime =) I get that being vat-grown and then raised in the Sunlight Foundation would mess a person up, but I was expecting "deep personal trauma" rathet than "I AM THE PROTAGONIST MUAHAHAHA" I get the sense that she has lost depth, which sucks :/ Norn and Adelheid's poor adoptive doctor truly just wants to be Kirito-kun... :::
::: spoiler comrade cuddlefish! you'll get like 90% of the gundam intertext from the gundam watchlist i gave you, and the rest is stuff that only comes up when i go "wow unjust depths is kind of doing this bit from [bad gundam show] but it's better and knows what the fuck its talking about, so not worth watching the necessary series to understand the intertext
she's just like me fr! listen you don't call someone "deeply unserious" when you're trying to hit
to be more specific naroukei refers to stories posted online on the website shousetsuka ni narou, which is pretty much like royal road if you've ever browsed that site. a noteworthy feature of narou is that iirc there isn't any summary field, which is why all the novels there have titles that are 3 sentences long. a few web novels posted there got light novels then got really successful anime, and naroukei stories and stories like them have come to completely dominate the modern anime industry. though obviously not all of them are bad there's so many and even the good ones are tainted by association with the bad. things are pretty bad in the anime industry for way more reasons than that but that's a big part
hm, i don't think those are incompatable. she's still got trauma that drives her, it's just that part of what it drives her to is being annoying about wanting to be the main character of reality
::: spoiler Revolutionary Cephalopod
I'm only like 11 episodes into 0079 so I'll prolly finish Depths before I even start a second Gundam :) I see though, I understand. I just feel like I'm getting ✨ context ✨ for Depths from it y'know!!
I know, but Shalikova was so close, I respect her restraint
I'm a cuttlefish fan now lol
Lmao I had to look up royal road... Glad to know why there are longass light novel titles though! I know of the naroukei stuff but this backstory is new to me. Did fuckin SAO come from there? Those type of fuckin isekai make you long for mid-00s shonen though, shame about what's happened to anime lol.
That's so weird to me though, like wtf?? Norn goes "Yeah so your mum was a weirdo eugenecist for the Sunlight Foundation, she was weird about the genetic roots of psionics & that's you" and Selene goes "YIPPEE! I'M THE (assumed) CULMINATION OF PSIONIC SUPREMACY RESEARCH!!" I cannot fathom her motivations or feelings. :::
::: spoiler revolutionary girl maryam you're getting through 0079 pretty quick! you're a quarter of the way through and already hit the first big turning point
nah, sao was written in 2002 so it predates narou. but that's basically the vibe, yeah
that's fair. it doesn't bug me, but i do see it
::: spoiler Ooooh 0079 posting ooooh Haha I guess, I laughed my ass off when Char says "BLAME THIS ON THE MISFORTUNE OF YOUR BIRTH..." lmao what a vicious man, chad move, love to see it.
Oh that's double cursed, to think of how long we've shared a world with SAO, sad :/
Shall see how her lil story goes, maybe somethin cool will happen... :::
::: spoiler 0079 blame this on the misfortune of your birth is a super famous line and for a good reason. it's a great moment, really defining to char as a character
if i'm remembering right the connection between sao and narou is twofold. the success of sao as a webnovel in 2002 was important in developing the culture of narou, and then a decade later the anime being hugely successful made the industry way more interested in adapting webnovels like sao and turned to narou
she definitely has cool stuff coming up! basically no characters who that isn't true for
takes big swig of fuckitol fuck this. tomorrow morning i'm going to planned parenthood and asking about HRT in person
shaved my chest, shaved my back, epilated almost all of my legs and feet, been shaving my face far more regularly. oh god it's really happening i'm transing my gender. i'm honestly running out of body hair to take off
I just bought the at home laser hair removal thing
::: spoiler Unjust Depths 8.8/8.9 talk
"In this single moment, Gertrude's dreams could crumble right in front of her. All of her work, suffering, all the begging and cheating and the corpses she climbed - for nothing."
Self Awareness Gertrude does not reflect on her actions. She truly does think in waves. The battle against the Antenora is just starting up for the Brigand crew, and I'm pretty hyped.
Meanwhile,
MOOD, SONYA
I like seeing Shalikova being CO as well, her internal bitching about how much better Murati is at this has me like OMG GO SIT WITH HER ✨ I believe in her ability to do this sometime since Murati is a perfect bean and could not be more approachable if she tried. I find the icy dynamics between them fascinating though, it really seemed back at the 3rd Battle of Thassalid that Sonya outright hated Murati or smth
So here is your incredibly blursed thought for the day: They should kiss. Murati and Sonya would make kind of a fun pair... Not as much obvious chemistry as Ulyana/Aaliyah or indeed Sonya and Maryan, but the way so much of Sonya's mindshare is spent thinking jealously/in admiration about how much better of a CO and tactician Murati is... combined with that initial awkwardness, I'm seeing it already. Sonya, nervous and gay, using her reverence for Murati's battlefield acumen as a shield to hide her hopelessly gay crush. Murati is very hardheaded, but I can see her wanting to be soft on a squadmate, being taken a little with Sonya's obviously flustered demanour, and things blossoming a bit from there.
That could be a cute AU fic, I think. Writing a blursed T4T pairing for Unjust Depths cause there's not any so far? Even though it feels a bit dirty, I may or may not be willing to brutalise A) Karuniya and B) the fan-favourite cuttlefish narratively to make this happen. :::
::: spoiler blursed t4t shalikova should just talk to her! murati would love the chance to share wisdom
hmm, i can see it! that'd definitely be a cute au! no need to brutalize maryam at least, you could just say she made her way onto a different ship. karuniya is a tougher nut to crack. it wouldn't really feel right if she just got killed or something, maybe her and murati's fight at the very start of the story goes worse and they break up? alternatively: both murati and shalikova have two hands! though i understand if the drama is part of the appeal :::
::: spoiler Cursed considerations
YO SHE SHOULD
That's what I love, it'll be great when they finally do talk, but also poor Shalikova, she must get there in her own time...
Oh, yeah I didn't mean literally brutalise lol, I meant more that while Maryan could easily still exist in this heavily cursed AU with her own arc and such, I don't think Karuniya would survive the separation process. I still must catch up, but her entire character currently orbits around everyone's favourite Husband Material, and literally the most evocative thought she's had was that bit about walking in on Murati fucking her roommate or whatever. She is nice but has not done anything yet :/ I never actually thought about having them break up in-universe but that's a good idea too... hmmmm...
I did consider doing humorous poly shenanigans, but uh I'm a monogamous nerd so I'd probably be less than equipped to write that :> easier to just AU it... Imma keep it 100 with u though, I'm actually more surprised that a massive polycule hasn't broken out on the Brigand. My goodreads marxist lady brought it up, but IRL if you put that many trans lesbians in one place, you'd need a chart like a spider web to disentangle all the poly drama right??? Maybe someday... :::
::: spoiler thonk-trans hmm yeah that's fair. karuniya does get some more stuff in the future but yeah, she's definitely a more periphery character. imagine the argument going worse, it leads to things being really awkward on the brigand, murati is throwing herself into her job and trying to get closer to her fellow pilots and really fixating on trying to get closer to sonya because she thinks sonya doesn't like her as sonya pushes her away because she's flustered and admiring her? this could be great :::
::: spoiler BIG thonk-trans I am looking forward to Karuniya getting more stuff also!! I do think it's fun that Murati has a stabke healthy relationship, Karu has just been kinda sidelined by everything else so far...
OH NOOOOO THAT IS REALLY GOOD I HAVE TO WRITE THIS DOWN AAAAAAAA MAYBE THIS WILL HAPPEN
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::: spoiler sicko-trans karuniya and murati are cute and stable and not much else rn, yeah
if it happens i NEED to read it this is rapidly getting very compelling to me :::
::: spoiler power-sicko Okay I'm gonna catch up and then study a bunch before I even attempt this, but yeah me too. This started as a borderline showerthought when I was at work, but now I'm like "This is the secret best pairing that nobody considered!!! I must make it happen!!!" :::
::: spoiler :sicko-hyper: i would ONE HUNDREND PERCENT love to read this. i just checked ao3 and there are 7 fics in the fandom so more would certainly be appreciated
::: spoiler Unjust Depths , no spoilers just more goofin' Shalikova is wedged into the diver sim cockpit behind Maryan to show her the controls ig, and it's a tight fit, and I'm like YOU SHOULD KISS THE BACK OF HER NECK... NOW!!!!
I'm actually kinda hoping that Maryan gets to pilot a Diver now, if only because it would be incredibly funny. She's so enamoured with the thing and it's charming. Plus, she'd probably make a kickass pilot when she's not all cuttled out =)
Much love to the failson on board the Brigand as well! He can't help that he was born fucked up! My man is literally doing a "NOBODY WILL DEBATE ME LEFTISTS ARE ALL VIOLENT" bit, basically turning into a corncob after Shalikova disregarded him. Watching him subsequently get his face pounded by that security lady's buttstock was deeply satisfying, sorry bucko but The Romanovs Deserved It :::
::: spoiler goofing they're cute! i would love to see maryam pilot a diver :::
::: spoiler Foolin' with mech sims Same, she really has just got better & better to me as she talks with Shalikova more. My cuttlefish support is now uncritical ❤ :::
oh my god why the fuck do i want to out myself to my parents. i haven't been emotionally vulnerable with them like this since i was like 15. they've never respected my emotions. my dad makes casually transphobic jokes all the time. i loved fantasizing about literally never outing myself to my parents and cutting them out of my life why do i keep crying at the idea of outing myself in the next week or so
they're trying to take me to europe on vacation for like 2 weeks. honestly i didn't want to go at first but trying to go through international airport security as a trans woman sounds nightmarish, i'd really rather just not. plus i keep reading too many stories about planes just fucking falling apart mid air to want to board one anytime soon
::: spoiler writing is hard. Ranting I have been questioning my gender (a lot more recently). And I felt it was like a puzzle, and I was slowly putting it together, and I could see the outline of what I think is an egg [of course I question if I am just hallucinating and it isn't an egg]. But I was coming to a halt, I had a problem, I was out of puzzle pieces. I didn't know... what to ask myself to figure it out. Of course the answer is just to go and get the puzzle pieces: TO READ. To understand gender better, who knew. Not me, not this :lib:. :::
tfw ur a genderlib
It's https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/8523e574-047f-4619-a240-a147b1d1e81d.png, I'm a genderlib.