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Curtain rod hanging

Hi all, I have a problem hanging some curtains as there is no stud above the window frame and there is already a blind hung on the frame itself.

I could possibly hang it from the ceiling in one room if the boss agrees but the other room has high ceilings.

Any suggestions?

Gnugit - 3day

I'm not confident the plasterboard will hold.

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Taleya - 3day

they're designed for it. The toggle action spreads the weight out over a larger area, so they don't pull through. You can get ones rated up to 20kg

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Gnugit - 3day

Up to 20kg should be fine, they are light curtains.

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tau - 3day

Cut a length of timber the width of the window frame (or slightly wider if necessary), run a router around the ends and top to make it look pretty, then sit it on top of the window frame and mount it to the studs. That'll give you a nice solid point to attach the curtains to.

Edit: Going the whole hog with this idea and extending a box out from this mount to make a pelmet for the curtains is also an option, and one that will reduce energy loss too if you make it suitably resistant to air flow.

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Gnugit - 3day

I suggested this but the boss said no

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melbaboutown - 3day

What kind of blinds setup do you have? I can’t visualise it.

I have curtain hooks screwed into the outer front of a wooden frame and a bracket securing the blinds inside the frame.

::: spoiler Shitty digital paint over to make the photo clearer. :::

There are two holes for screws that secure the blinds, and if the holes of both line up it might be possible to put them though a curtain hook bracket then through the holes for the blinds, holding them both on together by the same screw. (Obviously you’d want everything to be light. And not sure if it would hold well.)

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::: spoiler Artists impression

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However I have no idea of relative sizes or how it would actually align.

Plus if your setup is different or you get adjustable hooks where the lower part of the bracket obstructs the gap or the screw doesn’t pass through, I have to think of something else.

I thought this up after trying to find something similar to a double curtain rod hook but with blinds brackets, a combination of the two, however it seems what I was picturing might not exist.

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Gnugit - 3day

Where this blind in your picture is fixed with the brackets vertically and inside the window frame the one I'm working on is fixed horizontally outside of the window frame and just above so the bottom of the blind reel is the same level as the top, horizontal edge of the window frame.

Unfortunately I'm not on site and can't get s picture.

Also, the curtain rail is an S hook style not pole and ring.

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melbaboutown - 3day

Sorry, yeah, I completely misunderstood. Thought for some reason there were no curtain hooks (unlike my example) and you weren’t allowed to make additional holes in the frame to have them. (Not sure why I thought that.)

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No1 - 3day

How wide is the window? How solid is the window frame?

It may depend on the type of curtain as well, eg curtain rod with light material vs hand drawn with 50kg velvet curtains

If it's not too wide, and the frame is solid, could you use bracket(s) that attach/extend from the blind brackets on the window frame? I've done some pretty wild stuff with angle brackets and various flat plates. Or I guess the young'uns would 3D print something...

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Gnugit - 3day

The frame is set in plasterboard flush to the wall.

I'm thinking of going with the expanding plugs.

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No1 - 3day

Oof. Delete my post lol

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