also, I like the idea of dull no drama politicians and leaders
7
Catfish - 1mon
That is a tradition I was unaware of. Nice.
I don't think you can call HRM Wannabe Tampon no drama
5
Seagoon_ - 1mon
anyone's personal life would look dramatic if blown up by the english tabloid press
Imma talking about Trump levels of drama
2
Bottom_racer - 1mon
lol as predicted new mcmansion builders are out there scratching their heads on how to drain the swimming pool.
I would lend them my $20 pond pump but I'm not going to because I'm cruel.
9
Gibsonhasafluffybutt - 1mon
Lol that's the spirit!
You're a better man than me. I'd be throwing baking soda into the water all weekend.
5
Taleya - 1mon
baking soda? This is a job for jelly crystals!
5
StudSpud The Starchy - 1mon
::: spoiler exit stage top
:::
At the Murray as a young adult with fam, and aunt was driving the boat while I was on the biscuit. She starts doing massive donuts, so the waves grew large and chaotic. Nek minit I realised my dream of going to space.
Dad snapped this picture, so it does the rounds in the family every now and again lol
9
SpinMeRound - 1mon
That's absolutely golden!!
4
Seagoon_ - 1mon
Is that your foot dangling out the back?
lol
3
StudSpud The Starchy - 1mon
Yes!! 😂😂
3
Seagoon_ - 1mon
omg, and I expect you are hanging on like grim death ...lol
3
Gibsonhasafluffybutt - 1mon
Don't be fooled. That's not Gibson. That's a statue I made with all the fluff that's been falling out lately.
Goodnight ❤️
8
Catfish - 1mon
Very convincing, you must have a great comb.
6
SaneMartigan - 1mon
I get so much dog hair in the Dyson I need to empty it a few times per room. I show the dog the bag of hair I keep with me and ask what he plans to do about it.
5
anotherspringchicken - 1mon
You could leave it outside for the birds to make nests of
3
SaneMartigan - 1mon
I tried and it just becomes a pile of manky hair in the garden.
4
anotherspringchicken - 1mon
Oh, that’s a shame. The birds are missing out!
3
Gibsonhasafluffybutt - 1mon
It worked!
I had a relatively normal night of sleep. Still woke up once or twice but fell straight back to sleep.
I forgot what feeling refreshed after sleep felt like lol
8
LowExperience2368 - 1mon
What was the secret?
3
Gibsonhasafluffybutt - 1mon
I was taking my last adhd tablet at the wrong time. I was taking it early thinking it would run out faster but that's not how it works.
If you take it too early it stacks with the previous tablet and you got a weird double effect.
3
Taleya - 1mon
Fucking hell
Buy dishwasher on the 25th. Not in stock, but they'll order in from Bosch.
29th they say "Hey good for pickup and organise delivery"
We have sparky coming out on the 3rd so I arrange with the installer to bounce to today
delivery guy says ok ok ok
reschedules four times on their booking system.
finally books in tomorrow
I call him going wtf dude
"nonono it totally says the 5th, 8:30 am"
I call him at 10 am today asking if he's gonna show up "hurrrr isn't it tomorrow?"
He "agrees" to fit us in
DISHWASHER NOT FUCKING THERE
cunt has a go at me over it
Fuck you, good guys brighton. And fuck your goddamn hipages installers
7
Mert - 1mon
The only thing good guys are good at is advertising.
4
Rusty Raven - 1mon
Sometimes misleading advertising. I bought a freezer from there a couple of years ago and they were advertising a credit for future purchases that turned out to be so restrictive it was basically useless. Apparently ACCC pulled them up on it and made them send out vouchers with no restrictions or time limits, so I got an unexpected $60 voucher recently (which paid for the toaster I picked up today!)
2
Seagoon_ - 1mon
they are waiting for it to come from overseas
lying bastards
I know people hate on harvey norman but they generally do deliver next day , never had a problem with them at all, and it's a franchise now, all different owners
2
Taleya - 1mon
oh we are past THAT.
It was THEIR staff who marked off the logistics at THEIR warehouse ready for pickup and then arranged THEIR installer to contact me.
so this is all them. It's not "oh I jumped me gun they don't have it" they fucking created this whole shitfest
5
Seagoon_ - 1mon
lies from top to bottom then
2
PeelerSheila - 1mon
My bus this morning has a loud talking druggie couple up the back and I had to move because they smell like poop. I'm listening to Alter Bridge and I can hear them above it 🤦🏼♀️
7
Seagoon_ - 1mon
I'm noticing other people smelling poopy lately too, it just used to be underarms and sometimes pee
homeless people? drugs? can't afford to wash clothes?
Something is seriously wrong because hygiene is a core human trait,
4
melbaboutown - 1mon
I heard Covid can change your sense of smell? That said after the pandemic a lot of social norms were allowed to slide
3
Seagoon_ - 1mon
oh ffs, you're right, it might be post covid
if I had covid it was so mild I barely noticed
3
calhoon2005 - 1mon
....after 15 minutes
6
Rusty Raven - 1mon
I have successfully braved the local post office to pick up my toaster and return some long-overdue library books. I can now authoritatively say that it is an awful, badly designed carpark I would be very happy never to return to.
I also went to Bunnings, which was fairly hard to actually get to despite being just over the road. Actually getting there involved a large loop and a ridiculously long light cycle at traffic lights. Then when I was checking out the eftpos machine wasn't working and after three attempts I had to move to another register to pay. I will be happy to be able to stay home for a while now - I have nearly two weeks off and have plans to not go anywhere.
I managed to spend almost $150 on various shit. A mix of cow and chicken, plus some liquified fish for good measure. When Mr Woof gets a sniff of it all he's going to be very impressed.
On the way home I could see they have surveyors out in the paddocks over the road which are slated for a new estate. The cows were very interested, and one of the surveyors was having to survey in the middle of a herd of bovine helpers.
6
Catfish - 1mon
I have discovered an op shop with sensible prices! And acquired a formal tail-coat for Boyo. If I redo the lapels in something outlandish I might even induce him to wear it
6
Thornburywitch - 1mon
Silver or black embroidered spiderwebs across the lapels, and on one of them, a haematite spider with black pipecleaner legs. Or a googly eye with pipecleaner legs would be fun too.
4
Catfish - 1mon
Alas, is an arachnophobe
2
TheWitchofThornbury2 - 1mon
Glittery snail trails?
3
Catfish - 1mon
That could really work given my pet tattoo
2
Seagoon_ - 1mon
something individual but still classy, a brocade perhaps
3
Catfish - 1mon
A stash rummage ought provide. Think I got an utter bargain, this thing looks custom to me.
5
Seagoon_ - 1mon
that is Ringmaster style!!
and yeah, that looks tailor made, that's herringbone stitch, classic tailoring stitch for a suit
get the vest and he can star in Cabaret
3
Catfish - 1mon
Found it!
Figjam 😝
5
Gibsonhasafluffybutt - 1mon
Does anyone else find it hard to watch shows because all you see is the acting?
I've tried a few times now since I stopped taking suboxone and something has shifted. No matter what it is, all I see is the acting.
I can be the same sometimes , after seeing a movie a few times I start to look at the writing and structure of it , but I still enjoy it very much, maybe even more
solution, watch other shows where the story will take you away
( last week I went to see Frankenstein, I was surprised at myself at how much I was immersed in the story telling , could not take my eyes off the screen, very much a what happens next story but had so many moments of reflection too , 5/4 hobbits )
2
Rusty Raven - 1mon
It turned out to be quite a nice day today and I got a bit of gardening done. I put some weed & feed on the grass, mostly hoping to get rid of the bindiis, and a couple of other rampant weeds that have gotten a bit overexcited about spring. I planted out some shallots & potato onions (which are a lot like shallots) and sorted out my seed planting plans for tomorrow. Which involved a fair bit of searching through boxes to find some of my gardening stuff which is still packed. I'm still missing a couple of things, but nothing too important.
I hope to get onto some assembling of plant supports tomorrow too, which will help visualise where everything will fit in the garden and help with laying everything out.
6
Seagoon_ - 1mon
Mostly outdoors work for me too tomorrow. I'll rust proof then paint an outdoor table for plants then it's a big clean up of the front yard.
3
Taleya - 1mon
Fresh hell update: They managed to find one at another store . At this point we just want the dishwasher and wash our hands of this BS, so we arrange that they refund the delivery fee, give us a new number and we go pick up at said store.
ONE HOUR LATER. no new number. I call, and Other Store are like "wat"
I call braaahgton: "Ohhh we're having a PERSONAL driver bring it back to brighton for youuuu"
WELL THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THE ARRANGEMENT WAS WE GO PICK IT UP AT ANOTHER STORE YA FARKIN IDIOT
6
Catfish - 1mon
Madam, I feel at least one of these things is required 💊🥃🐈⬛🔨
5
Taleya - 1mon
if I apply mishas there will be blooooooood
Doubly so because I know this fuckaround is only happening because some cunt doesn't want to lose their commission. Well mate, I stopped giving a shit about what you wanted when you sold our paid-for dishwasher to some rando
8
LowExperience2368 - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
6
Catfish - 1mon
Do we need to express post you some kittens?
6
LowExperience2368 - 1mon
Yes please. My dog might not like them though.
5
Catfish - 1mon
6
LowExperience2368 - 1mon
Look at those toe beans!
5
SpinMeRound - 1mon
Alfie understands these feels and sends you love.
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
4
Catfish - 1mon
That floof!
3
Seagoon_ - 1mon
What's it all about
3
LowExperience2368 - 1mon
Sending love back to Alfie 🥰😍
2
melbaboutown - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
4
LowExperience2368 - 1mon
🥹🫶
2
Gibsonhasafluffybutt - 1mon
My modded switch was a great purchase. Who doesn't like sitting in bed with the purr monster and playing some zelda?
Can I please have rejuvenating soup of life elixir potion please
3
bacon - 1mon
🧫
2
SpinMeRound - 1mon
May I please have some chocolate ice cream?
3
bacon - 1mon
🍫🍨
3
Catfish - 1mon
Chef's choice so long as it has asparagus please
3
bacon - 1mon
🎍🧋
3
TheWitchofThornbury2 - 1mon
Chef, R U O K?
3
bacon - 1mon
👍 🫵❓
2
TheWitchofThornbury2 - 1mon
Good to know. Was getting a bit worried.
2
Seagoon_ - 1mon
omg, listening to a book dramatisation of LOTR, up to Mount Doom, omg my heart is in my mouth it's so dramatic, scary, sad, tense, it's everything
4
Seagoon_ - 1mon
good night everyone
sweet dreams 😗
4
Seagoon_ - 1mon
Today's weird opshop LP finds. I buy every comedy record I find except Bill Cosby.
first up, The Best of the Two Ronnies. These were a very famous comedy duo who in their sketch comedy show satirised the worst of popular culture
First track, a perfect rendition of treacly post war Scottish husband wife folk music duos, it was so spot on so ickle pretty sweet with perfect accents I had to check the disc to see if it was really them. God it was awful ..lol
Why was the Black and White Minstrel Show still a thing in 60s and 70s? Anyway, Corbett and Barker do "The Short and Fat Minstrel Show." I hope it offended fat and short racists and racists and sexists in general. Because what the fuck why did the black and white minstrel show even exist
the satire really is shocking , people forget how harsh and impolite we had to be to stop racism ( and it still hasn't stopped .) Every single racist trope is mentioned.
Oh yikes! That makeup is horrific. My clearest memory of them is treasure map knickers up a flagpole.
4
Seagoon_ - 1mon
black face is always horrific
listening to the whole album
so much that went over my head when i was a teen I get now,
I'm now, Gees, the two ronnies are really championing all these equality causes plus they were contemporaries of Monty Python in the Civil Rights Era
3
StudSpud The Starchy - 1mon
Having a lot of fun playing Ratchet and Clank on the PS2. I used to play the series ALL THE TIME! I reckon if I made different choices, I'd be a speedrunner for R&C, all my muscle memory is coming back from replaying it over and over in my teens.
And there's so much in the first game that Insomniac expanded on in 2 (going commando) and especially 3 (up your arsenal). I remember why Insomniac are my favourite devs/studio.
3
melbaboutown - 1mon
That was a great game. Up Your Arsenal. I remember messing around and aiming patiently to snipe a circling aircraft out of the sky
2
StudSpud The Starchy - 1mon
The Courtney Gears music video and song lives rent free in my head 😂😂
2
Seagoon_ - 1mon
A bad vodka hangover sung as the Volga Boat Song was inspired.
"Rising and falling, I feel a-ppalling, I'm a-bout to Heave Ho "
3
Seagoon_ - 1mon
new reading glasses 👓
I can has read more easier now
but they are more useless for normal vision and I must be careful to take them off when I don't need them
( slightly uncomfortable , is this normal? )
2
Catfish - 1mon
Sounds exactly like the ones I'm still getting used to. Great for screen/book but forget and look across the room = major dizzy
3
Seagoon_ - 1mon
I lasted 20 minutes, looks like I'll have to ease into them
YarraByte in melbourne
Discussion Thread 🦜 Wednesday 5 November 2025
::: spoiler HUZZAH!
Never play stupid bureaucratic chicken with an ASD tech.
You will not win.
I may also not win, but that will be beside the point.
:::
lol that's actually impressive you sorted that so quickly.
What can I say, I'm an autist :P
Morning! I have found my first Charles III minted coin in the wild. It is approximately as interesting as he is.
if you look at the head it is facing the opposite direction of the QEII coins. This is a very old custom ,https://www.royalmint.com/stories/collect/coinage-portrait-tradition/
also, I like the idea of dull no drama politicians and leaders
That is a tradition I was unaware of. Nice.
I don't think you can call HRM Wannabe Tampon no drama
anyone's personal life would look dramatic if blown up by the english tabloid press
Imma talking about Trump levels of drama
lol as predicted new mcmansion builders are out there scratching their heads on how to drain the swimming pool.
I would lend them my $20 pond pump but I'm not going to because I'm cruel.
Lol that's the spirit!
You're a better man than me. I'd be throwing baking soda into the water all weekend.
baking soda? This is a job for jelly crystals!
::: spoiler exit stage top
:::
At the Murray as a young adult with fam, and aunt was driving the boat while I was on the biscuit. She starts doing massive donuts, so the waves grew large and chaotic. Nek minit I realised my dream of going to space.
Dad snapped this picture, so it does the rounds in the family every now and again lol
That's absolutely golden!!
Is that your foot dangling out the back?
lol
Yes!! 😂😂
omg, and I expect you are hanging on like grim death ...lol
Don't be fooled. That's not Gibson. That's a statue I made with all the fluff that's been falling out lately.
Goodnight ❤️
Very convincing, you must have a great comb.
I get so much dog hair in the Dyson I need to empty it a few times per room. I show the dog the bag of hair I keep with me and ask what he plans to do about it.
You could leave it outside for the birds to make nests of
I tried and it just becomes a pile of manky hair in the garden.
Oh, that’s a shame. The birds are missing out!
It worked!
I had a relatively normal night of sleep. Still woke up once or twice but fell straight back to sleep.
I forgot what feeling refreshed after sleep felt like lol
What was the secret?
I was taking my last adhd tablet at the wrong time. I was taking it early thinking it would run out faster but that's not how it works.
If you take it too early it stacks with the previous tablet and you got a weird double effect.
Fucking hell
29th they say "Hey good for pickup and organise delivery"
We have sparky coming out on the 3rd so I arrange with the installer to bounce to today
delivery guy says ok ok ok
reschedules four times on their booking system.
finally books in tomorrow
I call him going wtf dude
"nonono it totally says the 5th, 8:30 am"
I call him at 10 am today asking if he's gonna show up "hurrrr isn't it tomorrow?"
He "agrees" to fit us in
DISHWASHER NOT FUCKING THERE
cunt has a go at me over it
Fuck you, good guys brighton. And fuck your goddamn hipages installers
The only thing good guys are good at is advertising.
Sometimes misleading advertising. I bought a freezer from there a couple of years ago and they were advertising a credit for future purchases that turned out to be so restrictive it was basically useless. Apparently ACCC pulled them up on it and made them send out vouchers with no restrictions or time limits, so I got an unexpected $60 voucher recently (which paid for the toaster I picked up today!)
they are waiting for it to come from overseas
lying bastards
I know people hate on harvey norman but they generally do deliver next day , never had a problem with them at all, and it's a franchise now, all different owners
oh we are past THAT.
It was THEIR staff who marked off the logistics at THEIR warehouse ready for pickup and then arranged THEIR installer to contact me.
so this is all them. It's not "oh I jumped me gun they don't have it" they fucking created this whole shitfest
lies from top to bottom then
My bus this morning has a loud talking druggie couple up the back and I had to move because they smell like poop. I'm listening to Alter Bridge and I can hear them above it 🤦🏼♀️
I'm noticing other people smelling poopy lately too, it just used to be underarms and sometimes pee
homeless people? drugs? can't afford to wash clothes?
Something is seriously wrong because hygiene is a core human trait,
I heard Covid can change your sense of smell? That said after the pandemic a lot of social norms were allowed to slide
oh ffs, you're right, it might be post covid
if I had covid it was so mild I barely noticed
....after 15 minutes
I have successfully braved the local post office to pick up my toaster and return some long-overdue library books. I can now authoritatively say that it is an awful, badly designed carpark I would be very happy never to return to.
I also went to Bunnings, which was fairly hard to actually get to despite being just over the road. Actually getting there involved a large loop and a ridiculously long light cycle at traffic lights. Then when I was checking out the eftpos machine wasn't working and after three attempts I had to move to another register to pay. I will be happy to be able to stay home for a while now - I have nearly two weeks off and have plans to not go anywhere.
I managed to spend almost $150 on various shit. A mix of cow and chicken, plus some liquified fish for good measure. When Mr Woof gets a sniff of it all he's going to be very impressed.
On the way home I could see they have surveyors out in the paddocks over the road which are slated for a new estate. The cows were very interested, and one of the surveyors was having to survey in the middle of a herd of bovine helpers.
I have discovered an op shop with sensible prices! And acquired a formal tail-coat for Boyo. If I redo the lapels in something outlandish I might even induce him to wear it
Silver or black embroidered spiderwebs across the lapels, and on one of them, a haematite spider with black pipecleaner legs. Or a googly eye with pipecleaner legs would be fun too.
Alas, is an arachnophobe
Glittery snail trails?
That could really work given my pet tattoo
something individual but still classy, a brocade perhaps
A stash rummage ought provide. Think I got an utter bargain, this thing looks custom to me.
that is Ringmaster style!!
and yeah, that looks tailor made, that's herringbone stitch, classic tailoring stitch for a suit
get the vest and he can star in Cabaret
Found it!
Figjam 😝
Does anyone else find it hard to watch shows because all you see is the acting?
I've tried a few times now since I stopped taking suboxone and something has shifted. No matter what it is, all I see is the acting.
The way movies are made is changing apparently https://popcrush.com/tv-dumbed-down-phone-scrolling-viewers/ maybe it's that you can see?
That's interesting. It seems to be with everything even old stuff.
I don't mind too much but it's been an odd experience.
loss of "suspension of disbelief" perhaps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
I can be the same sometimes , after seeing a movie a few times I start to look at the writing and structure of it , but I still enjoy it very much, maybe even more
solution, watch other shows where the story will take you away
( last week I went to see Frankenstein, I was surprised at myself at how much I was immersed in the story telling , could not take my eyes off the screen, very much a what happens next story but had so many moments of reflection too , 5/4 hobbits )
It turned out to be quite a nice day today and I got a bit of gardening done. I put some weed & feed on the grass, mostly hoping to get rid of the bindiis, and a couple of other rampant weeds that have gotten a bit overexcited about spring. I planted out some shallots & potato onions (which are a lot like shallots) and sorted out my seed planting plans for tomorrow. Which involved a fair bit of searching through boxes to find some of my gardening stuff which is still packed. I'm still missing a couple of things, but nothing too important.
I hope to get onto some assembling of plant supports tomorrow too, which will help visualise where everything will fit in the garden and help with laying everything out.
Mostly outdoors work for me too tomorrow. I'll rust proof then paint an outdoor table for plants then it's a big clean up of the front yard.
Fresh hell update: They managed to find one at another store . At this point we just want the dishwasher and wash our hands of this BS, so we arrange that they refund the delivery fee, give us a new number and we go pick up at said store.
ONE HOUR LATER. no new number. I call, and Other Store are like "wat"
I call braaahgton: "Ohhh we're having a PERSONAL driver bring it back to brighton for youuuu" WELL THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THE ARRANGEMENT WAS WE GO PICK IT UP AT ANOTHER STORE YA FARKIN IDIOT
Madam, I feel at least one of these things is required 💊🥃🐈⬛🔨
if I apply mishas there will be blooooooood
Doubly so because I know this fuckaround is only happening because some cunt doesn't want to lose their commission. Well mate, I stopped giving a shit about what you wanted when you sold our paid-for dishwasher to some rando
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
Do we need to express post you some kittens?
Yes please. My dog might not like them though.
Look at those toe beans!
Alfie understands these feels and sends you love.
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
That floof!
What's it all about
Sending love back to Alfie 🥰😍
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
🥹🫶
My modded switch was a great purchase. Who doesn't like sitting in bed with the purr monster and playing some zelda?
Beep Beep 🚚
🍏🍎🍐🍊🍋🍈🫐🍓🍇🍉🍌🍒🍑🥭🍍🥥🥦🥑🫛🍆🍅🥝🥬🥒🌽🥕🥐🍠🫚🥔🧅🥯🍞🥖🥨🧀🧇🥞🧈🍳🥚🥓🥩🍗🍖🫓🍕🍟🍔🌭🥙🧆🌮🌯🥗🍲🍜🍝🥘🍛🍣🍱🥟🦪🍥🍘🍚🍙🐠🍤🪼🦀🐙 🍗🥮🍢🍡🍧🍰🧁🥧🍦🍨🎂🍮🍭🍬🍫🥜🌰🍪🍿🍯🥛☕️🍵🍺🍶🥤🧋🧃🥂🍷🥃🍸🍹🧉🔋
Can I please have rejuvenating soup of life elixir potion please
🧫
May I please have some chocolate ice cream?
🍫🍨
Chef's choice so long as it has asparagus please
🎍🧋
Chef, R U O K?
👍 🫵❓
Good to know. Was getting a bit worried.
omg, listening to a book dramatisation of LOTR, up to Mount Doom, omg my heart is in my mouth it's so dramatic, scary, sad, tense, it's everything
good night everyone
sweet dreams 😗
Today's weird opshop LP finds. I buy every comedy record I find except Bill Cosby.
first up, The Best of the Two Ronnies. These were a very famous comedy duo who in their sketch comedy show satirised the worst of popular culture
First track, a perfect rendition of treacly post war Scottish husband wife folk music duos, it was so spot on so ickle pretty sweet with perfect accents I had to check the disc to see if it was really them. God it was awful ..lol
Why was the Black and White Minstrel Show still a thing in 60s and 70s? Anyway, Corbett and Barker do "The Short and Fat Minstrel Show." I hope it offended fat and short racists and racists and sexists in general. Because what the fuck why did the black and white minstrel show even exist
the satire really is shocking , people forget how harsh and impolite we had to be to stop racism ( and it still hasn't stopped .) Every single racist trope is mentioned.
I am just 😧 😲 😲
click at your own peril, to be antiracist you had to make commentary on racism and show examples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ePC-uVKFI
Oh yikes! That makeup is horrific. My clearest memory of them is treasure map knickers up a flagpole.
black face is always horrific
listening to the whole album
so much that went over my head when i was a teen I get now,
I'm now, Gees, the two ronnies are really championing all these equality causes plus they were contemporaries of Monty Python in the Civil Rights Era
Having a lot of fun playing Ratchet and Clank on the PS2. I used to play the series ALL THE TIME! I reckon if I made different choices, I'd be a speedrunner for R&C, all my muscle memory is coming back from replaying it over and over in my teens.
And there's so much in the first game that Insomniac expanded on in 2 (going commando) and especially 3 (up your arsenal). I remember why Insomniac are my favourite devs/studio.
That was a great game. Up Your Arsenal. I remember messing around and aiming patiently to snipe a circling aircraft out of the sky
The Courtney Gears music video and song lives rent free in my head 😂😂
A bad vodka hangover sung as the Volga Boat Song was inspired.
"Rising and falling, I feel a-ppalling, I'm a-bout to Heave Ho "
new reading glasses 👓
I can has read more easier now
but they are more useless for normal vision and I must be careful to take them off when I don't need them
( slightly uncomfortable , is this normal? )
Sounds exactly like the ones I'm still getting used to. Great for screen/book but forget and look across the room = major dizzy
I lasted 20 minutes, looks like I'll have to ease into them