Police were largely powerless to stop a neo-Nazi march through the Melbourne CBD, during which officers escorted the group of masked men to “maintain community safety”.
About 100 people from the National Socialist Network dressed in black and wearing face masks marched through the Bourke Street Mall at 12.40am on Saturday.
aramova @infosec.pub - 4mon
Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.
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noride @lemmy.zip - 4mon
I haven't heard that in like 20 years. It's never been truer, either.
Police were largely powerless to stop a neo-Nazi march through the Melbourne CBD, during which officers escorted the group of masked men to “maintain community safety”.
Hey VicPol, is this you? Is this you literally last weekend? I feel like this is you but maybe I'm wrong.
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eureka - 4mon
To reiterate what Allan was hinting at, they do these timid little flash mobs when most people are asleep because they keep getting beaten up or humiliated whenever they do anything in daylight. The same tactics have been used (and admitted by former PF members) in the US. These neo-Nazis exist outside of communities.
And if anything, it's validating that enough people are putting in the time and effort to make these scum scared of the daylight. Antifascism isn't just the people you see on television or social media, there's a lot going on behind the scenes to push back on these groups in the ways law enforcement agencies either can't or won't.
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Sasha [They/Them] - 4mon
Every interaction between them and the radical community inevitably devolves into a fucking joke. They either run away immediately or shout about how tiny their dicks are. Antifa and related loose orgs around Naarm could stamp them out if the cops wheren't protecting them all them time.
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zero_gravitas - 4mon
they do these timid little flash mobs when most people are asleep because they keep getting beaten up or humiliated whenever they do anything in daylight
Be a shame if someone accidentally lost control of they're vehicle around them. Shame.
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eureka - 4mon
It would be a shame if it were accidental. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
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No1 - 4mon
"According to the court testimony, the car was in full self.driving mode, and didn't identify them as humans.
The case was dismissed."
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Deceptichum - 4mon
So obviously the cops knew in advance, how does everyone else find out these things are going to happen before they happen?
Seeing them all lined up like that is very gouranga.
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deadbeef79000 @lemmy.nz - 4mon
So obviously the cops knew in advance
Because some of the cops are in the march.
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eureka - 4mon
In case this was just a kneejerk guess, it's worth pointing out one of their unmasked members (Nathan Bull) is the son of an officer.
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deadbeef79000 @lemmy.nz - 4mon
WTF, it was just a snide remark.
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maniacalmanicmania - 4mon
It's not clear to me if the cops 'officially' knew of the march beforehand and I don't think anyone else knew other than the fascists and presumably the cops who are members and masked up.
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eureka - 4mon
::: spoiler spoiler
On the other hand, I suspect there are enough informers in the group that feds, antifash and even journalists might have known. The amount of leaked information in the past has led to many of them being exposed and fired, and I doubt their vetting process has improved much.
:::
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SaneMartigan - 4mon
Nazi1: Hay dave you coming to the march.
Nazi2: Yeah mate, Sat night, double bubble.
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melbaboutown - 4mon
wtf :/
I agree there needs to be more to stop Neo Nazis. I can’t help but think those powers could be used on other protesters though.
Can there be tightened hate speech laws to particularly target Nazis?
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NoneOfUrBusiness - 4mon
I can’t help but think those powers could be used on other protesters though.
Bingo.
Can there be tightened hate speech laws to particularly target Nazis?
Germany has those. The results have predictably not been fun, and also predictably they have done nothing to curb the rise of actual neo-Nazis. Once you make one exception, you can make a hundred.
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eureka - 4mon
Nazis are no stranger to workarounds and skirting censorship. When the swastika gets banned, they just use the Sonnenrad, Wolfsangel, pseudo-runes, etc. and police end up abusing the laws to arrest people criticising fascism. Homework for the reader: find out how many times a party calling themselves a Centre Party was actually a fascist party. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(New_South_Wales). Liberalist legal bans just turn fascism into cryptofascism, it takes community effort to root it out properly.
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NoneOfUrBusiness - 4mon
Hell even without legal bans and censorship, fascists can't just out and out say what they stand for until they gain solid ground with the electorate; most people need to be innoculated against fascism before they get behind the really horrible stuff. There's a reason the Nazi Party was called the Nationalist Socialist Party and not the Kill All Jews Party.
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melbaboutown - 4mon
There’s always punching. But I don’t have the arm for it and don’t want to end up with a criminal record so yeah
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Nath - 4mon
I agree there needs to be more to stop Neo Nazis. I can’t help but think those powers could be used on other protesters though.
This is also my concern. While I mock these losers for hiding behind their masks like cowards, I also don't want it to become illegal to wear a mask in public/protests. Because I might want to wear one someday for something.
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melbaboutown - 4mon
Like (god forbid) another pandemic or a more virulent resurgence of this one.
maniacalmanicmania in news
Police escort neo-Nazis in early morning march through Melbourne’s CBD
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/no-place-for-hate-as-police-escort-neo-nazis-in-early-morning-march-20250809-p5mlmr.htmlSome of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.
I haven't heard that in like 20 years. It's never been truer, either.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ
Hey VicPol, is this you? Is this you literally last weekend? I feel like this is you but maybe I'm wrong.
To reiterate what Allan was hinting at, they do these timid little flash mobs when most people are asleep because they keep getting beaten up or humiliated whenever they do anything in daylight. The same tactics have been used (and admitted by former PF members) in the US. These neo-Nazis exist outside of communities.
And if anything, it's validating that enough people are putting in the time and effort to make these scum scared of the daylight. Antifascism isn't just the people you see on television or social media, there's a lot going on behind the scenes to push back on these groups in the ways law enforcement agencies either can't or won't.
Every interaction between them and the radical community inevitably devolves into a fucking joke. They either run away immediately or shout about how tiny their dicks are. Antifa and related loose orgs around Naarm could stamp them out if the cops wheren't protecting them all them time.
Here's a recent Tom Tanuki video on the subject for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXgiVhdvyiI
Powerless my arse, that should surely qualify under EPA noise laws. They were extremely loud, at 12:40AM
How could they not be moved on for that?
I just assumed it was some football hooligans or something benign like that
Fuckwits
wow, typical. and they don't get shit for wearing masks and black bloc too???
‘No place for hate’ as police escort neo-Nazis in early-morning march | archive.today
Premier Jacinta Allan says 'Nazis' will not be tolerated after protest group marches through Melbourne CBD | ABC
Murdoch branded video of fascist march uploaded to non-Murdoch owned service.
Be a shame if someone accidentally lost control of they're vehicle around them. Shame.
It would be a shame if it were accidental. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
"According to the court testimony, the car was in full self.driving mode, and didn't identify them as humans.
The case was dismissed."
So obviously the cops knew in advance, how does everyone else find out these things are going to happen before they happen?
Seeing them all lined up like that is very gouranga.
Because some of the cops are in the march.
In case this was just a kneejerk guess, it's worth pointing out one of their unmasked members (Nathan Bull) is the son of an officer.
WTF, it was just a snide remark.
It's not clear to me if the cops 'officially' knew of the march beforehand and I don't think anyone else knew other than the fascists and presumably the cops who are members and masked up.
::: spoiler spoiler On the other hand, I suspect there are enough informers in the group that feds, antifash and even journalists might have known. The amount of leaked information in the past has led to many of them being exposed and fired, and I doubt their vetting process has improved much. :::
Nazi1: Hay dave you coming to the march.
Nazi2: Yeah mate, Sat night, double bubble.
wtf :/
I agree there needs to be more to stop Neo Nazis. I can’t help but think those powers could be used on other protesters though.
Can there be tightened hate speech laws to particularly target Nazis?
Bingo.
Germany has those. The results have predictably not been fun, and also predictably they have done nothing to curb the rise of actual neo-Nazis. Once you make one exception, you can make a hundred.
Nazis are no stranger to workarounds and skirting censorship. When the swastika gets banned, they just use the Sonnenrad, Wolfsangel, pseudo-runes, etc. and police end up abusing the laws to arrest people criticising fascism. Homework for the reader: find out how many times a party calling themselves a Centre Party was actually a fascist party. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(New_South_Wales). Liberalist legal bans just turn fascism into cryptofascism, it takes community effort to root it out properly.
Hell even without legal bans and censorship, fascists can't just out and out say what they stand for until they gain solid ground with the electorate; most people need to be innoculated against fascism before they get behind the really horrible stuff. There's a reason the Nazi Party was called the Nationalist Socialist Party and not the Kill All Jews Party.
There’s always punching. But I don’t have the arm for it and don’t want to end up with a criminal record so yeah
This is also my concern. While I mock these losers for hiding behind their masks like cowards, I also don't want it to become illegal to wear a mask in public/protests. Because I might want to wear one someday for something.
Like (god forbid) another pandemic or a more virulent resurgence of this one.
Fuck these hateful cowards though.